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Old 08-29-2016, 05:00 PM   #11
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Thanks for doing that. That really gives me a good idea as to where I stand. I forgot the GCWR which is 17100 lbs according to the owners manual. Getting under the overage on the rear axle is an easy fix. I just need to move a few things to the trailer and that should get me there. I appreciate everyone's input. Now I know there won't be any bigger trailers in my future. We really like this one and as soon as I finish rebuilding it, it really will be nice.
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Old 08-31-2016, 01:53 PM   #12
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This is very confusing. The goal of a WDH is to return all lost weight to the front axle. That is, your front axle with WDH engaged, should be at or near the front axle with no trailer attached. From that perspective, you need to transfer another 160 lbs (3860-3700). This would also reduce your rear axle weight into, or at least closer to spec.

But getting the front to 3860 would put you over the front GAWR by 110 lbs (3860-3750). Why are you so far over your front GAWR without the trailer? You either have very heavy front passengers, or you are putting something extremely heavy at the front of the bed.

Perhaps you need to get the truck weight without the trailer, and without any cargo or passengers. That is the condition you should be comparing to. Usually, front weight is not affected so much by a little cargo, but you're seems to be the exception.
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Old 08-31-2016, 02:00 PM   #13
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This is very confusing. The goal of a WDH is to return all lost weight to the front axle. That is, your front axle with WDH engaged, should be at or near the front axle with no trailer attached. From that perspective, you need to transfer another 160 lbs (3860-3700). This would also reduce your rear axle weight into, or at least closer to spec.

But getting the front to 3860 would put you over the front GAWR by 110 lbs (3860-3750). Why are you so far over your front GAWR without the trailer? You either have very heavy front passengers, or you are putting something extremely heavy at the front of the bed.

Perhaps you need to get the truck weight without the trailer, and without any cargo or passengers. That is the condition you should be comparing to. Usually, front weight is not affected so much by a little cargo, but you're seems to be the exception.


Yeah, something isn't right. His sticker shows a payload of like 1,700 lbs, but his "empty" weight is within 550 lbs of GVWR.

Wonder if the scales are jacked up. Is there a minimum weight?


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Old 08-31-2016, 03:17 PM   #14
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That is what I pointed out early on. Something is way too heavy with the truck alone weight in the front. Maybe the scale is off? I hug the payload with my truck, gear, passengers, and tongue weight but nothing close to that. I have nearly the same payload.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:48 PM   #15
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I don't know if this helps or not but here is the truck.Click image for larger version

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Old 08-31-2016, 08:08 PM   #16
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The grill guard is contributing some. But it is not heavy. Maybe 50 or 60 lbs and that may be stretching it. DW and I are not skinny but not grossly over weight. I do carry a tool bag, fire extinguisher, a small air pump and my camping tools at the front of the bed. I would not think this would create a severely over loaded front end. But maybe it does. I don't think the scales are off. CAT is pretty meticulous about their scales at least that's my understanding. I don't know. That's why I posted the question to you guy's.
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I would get the truck weighed again... without any tools or passengers at a different scale. Gotta figure this out before trying to figure the trailer.


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