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Old 08-28-2016, 08:18 PM   #1
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Help checking weights

I finally got the opportunity to get my rig weighed. Which is great except it all is Greek to me. The best I can figure is I'm just over on my rear axle and at tad light on the front axle. The trailer is way below it's 8200 Lb max weight so I don't see any problem there. My tongue weight is a little low at 620 lbs on my sherline scale. I only made two passes at the scale and learned that lunch time is NOT the best time to move around a truck stop.
My truck is a 2012 F150 with max tow useing a Reese dual cam hitch. For those of you Guru's out there the documentation is be low. Thanks for the help
The trailer is a 2016 EverLite 232 RBS.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:34 AM   #2
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I talked to Ford towing and used the towing calculator when I bought my current TT and TV. My TT is about 9110# loaded and I have a F150 2014 Eco Max tow. I am nearly at a 20% safety factor on all numbers except payload. It pulls very well. I would need a TV upgrade if I went to a 5er of nearly any size because of the rear axle and payload load factor and heavy tongue weight.

My max payload is just under 1700 lbs sticker and my tongue weight is 890 (the 312 has two slides in the very rear that must lower the tongue weight a bit). That is only about 750 lbs max for passengers and gear. My wife and I weigh 300lbs so about 450 for gear in the back including a 100 lb lid. When we load it up we can get within 100 lbs of that limit. Ford has repeatedly told me that is no problem at all. They have a significant safety margin built in on the newer trucks but stay very near or below the limit. Obviously it must be the max tow config and HD adds about 500 lbs to the limit. Probably still not enough for much of a fifth wheel but plenty for a large TT.

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Old 08-29-2016, 09:23 AM   #3
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The best I can figure is I'm just over on my rear axle and at tad light on the front axle.
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My tongue weight is a little low at 620 lbs on my sherline scale.

Your ideas/assumptions are correct.


Just FYI....Note that with the trailer unhooked you were over on your front axle by 110lbs which is more than the amount you were over on the rear axle when hooked up.


Are you looking for advice/suggestions on how to proceed or were you simply looking for clarification on the numbers?
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:40 AM   #4
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Your truck unhooked weighs 7100 lbs? What are you carrying?
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:30 AM   #5
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Your ideas/assumptions are correct.


Just FYI....Note that with the trailer unhooked you were over on your front axle by 110lbs which is more than the amount you were over on the rear axle when hooked up.


Are you looking for advice/suggestions on how to proceed or were you simply looking for clarification on the numbers?
Just clarification that I'm reading this correctly. The rig sits level and handles great. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't grossly off anywhere especially the rear axle.
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:38 AM   #6
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Your truck unhooked weighs 7100 lbs? What are you carrying?
We were loaded for camping. I put stuff in it I don't normally carry on a regular basis so the weights would still apply in case I did want to bring those things along. The truck is an FX4 but is optioned to that of a Lariat.
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Old 08-29-2016, 12:49 PM   #7
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That is pretty maxed in the TV axle weight wise. The WDH distribution looks good. I have not had mine (TV) loaded like that yet but my TT is a good bit heavier. ;-) I feel more comfortable with my TT and significant load towing after working with Ford towing folks and the dealer tow expert together when we upgraded to the 312. Both were concurrent in the recommendations and made me feel good about loading the payload/axle weights to max. We have about 3000 miles on our rig now with much of it in the Ozarks this year. I am really pleased the way it tows and my wife often drives.

What gain do you run on the trailer brake?
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Old 08-29-2016, 01:14 PM   #8
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It depends on the weather. Dry pavement 7.0. If it's raining I back it down to 6.0 to 6.5. Sliding tires don't do any good for stopping. I saw a utility trailer push a 1 ton through an intersection and it's tires were locked on wet pavement.
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Old 08-29-2016, 02:39 PM   #9
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Yikes.

btw- when I weighed just my truck back six months ago camping loaded it is was 6343# w/o adding the tongue weight onto it. Wife and I in it.
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Old 08-29-2016, 03:59 PM   #10
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I plugged your numbers into my Towing Planner/Actual Weights tool. Generally, with a travel trailer, you want to get 3 weights to get a true feel of tongue weight.

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Looks like you're close to maxed out on the front axle.

Looks like you're 60 lbs. over the rear axle ratings.

Looks like you're 170 lbs. over the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the truck itself.

I don't see what your gross combined weight rating (GCWR) is to know where you stand.

So basically, you're maxed out and over ratings but not by much.
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