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Old 07-14-2014, 03:46 PM   #21
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Although you are borderline on tongue weight to require a weight distribution hitch, you will find towing much more comfortable with one. I recommend an Equal-i-zer four point friction hitch. A Pro-pride or Hensley would be overkill.
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Old 07-14-2014, 03:52 PM   #22
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Here is Toyota's Towing Guide, which shows info on weighing your setup.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:16 PM   #23
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Hi Friends,

Although this is my first post, I’ve been lurking for a while. You’ve all helped me organize, shop for a new camper, and understand maintenance even when you didn’t know it!! I’ll apologize in advance for the long post that’s coming but we REALLY need help.

My husband and I are very new to the camping world, having just bought our first camper last September (A128S). Well, we love it so much (22 nights between 09/13-05/14) that we just upgraded in June to a Mini Lite 2306. The Nissan Xterra that had served us well since its birth 240,000 miles ago just wasn’t going to safely cut it for the Mini Lite so we also upgraded to a 2014 Nissan Titan w/ OEM tow package.

I’m here in hopes that all of you more experienced folks can give us some insight as towing the 2306 is SCARY. Scary to the point that Paul and I almost don’t want to travel with our trailer.

We experienced no sway or “white knuckle” moments with our Xterra/A128S combo but the Titan/2306 rig is downright nauseating. Our dealer is roughly 160 miles away from home. On 2306’s adoption day, there was some wiggle so we cruised home 50-55 and taking it easy with a brand new setup. Paul had a sway bar put on the following week thinking that it would eliminate the wiggle.

The next weekend, we set out for our week’s vacation. The drive to our final destination was about 250 miles. 30 miles in, Paul is feeling a little more comfortable and picks up some speed. At about 65 mph, the trailer took on a life of its own. He was able to control the swing and keep us alive but it was a harrowing moment. It ended up taking us nearly 8 hours to drive from Tampa to Jacksonville. Really.

The sway (understatement) is persistent at anything over 50 but becomes dangerously pronounced beyond 55. We both truly thought that Paul was just having a really hard time adjusting to the bigger truck and trailer until we asked my brother to come take her for a test drive.

My brother has been towing, literally, since he was old enough to drive. In addition, he’s had his CDL for 10+ years and drives a big rig every day. The guys went out last night so that my brother could feel what I was feeling in the passenger seat and could also drive to see if he could replicate the problems we’re having (this is code for ‘make fun of his brother-in-laws lack of driving ability’). He got it to around 57 and agreed that we have a problem. They even went so far as to swap out trailer/truck/Ranger boat combos to effectively eliminate one piece of equipment. The common factor is undoubtedly our trailer.
We have a friend that is towing his 2306 with a Traverse and is comfortably able to tow at 65 with no adverse wind conditions so we're REALLY confused.
It does look like our axles are bent some (if we put a 4’ level across it, the level doesn’t sit flush and you can see air between the axles and level in roughly the center) and they aren’t bent symmetrically but to be frank, I haven’t been digging around under a ton of trailers looking to see how much “bow” is normal (if at all).

Paul is calling our dealer today but I’m scared to death that we’re going to get a pat on the head and told that we’re just inexperienced. Something is wrong and if we can’t figure it out, I’m prepared to take a big loss and just be done. Not worth it.

ANY insight you guys can provide is welcome. We have also done the standard things (loosen/tighten sway, checked lug nuts, tire pressures, etc.).

-Diane & Paul

Can you post a pic of your setup on level ground ?


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Old 07-14-2014, 05:26 PM   #24
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Here is Toyota's Towing Guide, which shows info on weighing your setup.
Think you meant "Nissan?"
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Checked the manual and a wd hitch is recommended "if you plan to tow trailers with a maximum weight over 5,000 lbs." Thanks, everyone, for all of your suggestions so far. Hubby is going to be very busy measuring and weighing tonight! I'll take pictures and post tonight or tomorrow.

Max TC = 9,500
Max Tongue = 950
Good luck with it. Lots of members have done this themselves and a few have had dealer do it. I can swear that it will help.
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I had a great dealer but they didn't seem to know squat about setting up my equalizer hitch. So after a white knuckle drive home I got out the tape measure and followed the manufacturers set up procedure and have never looked back.
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So, my brother actually took off early work early to come over and problem solve. 4 loose wheel bearings. His words were "finger loose". They took all the wheels off, tightened and greased and took her back out. 70 without a problem. Both said they could feel the trailer but no more herky jerky. Both also noted that the sway bar made the ride smoother but that the bearings were the deal breaker.

We're still going to take the weights and make any other beneficial adjustments. Lesson learned, I suppose. Fortunately, this outcome was a positive one. Hubby will be calling dealer back in the morning.
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Help Please: Scary, Scary Towing

We have the 2306 and im towing with a Tundra, so a very similar setup as you... I use the equalizer 4-pt WDB/sway control and run right around 63-65mph. I haven't had even a slight wiggle with my setup... I literally have to remind myself it's back there. The 2306 does have somewhat of a light tongue weight. Make sure you're getting the proper weight up front... And tow with the bed up, not down.

The slight bow in your axle is normal... I was just under my unit this weekend and noticed it. No worries.

Edit: too slow to post. Great to hear you solved the problem.


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So, my brother actually took off early work early to come over and problem solve. 4 loose wheel bearings. His words were "finger loose". They took all the wheels off, tightened and greased and took her back out. 70 without a problem. Both said they could feel the trailer but no more herky jerky. Both also noted that the sway bar made the ride smoother but that the bearings were the deal breaker.

We're still going to take the weights and make any other beneficial adjustments. Lesson learned, I suppose. Fortunately, this outcome was a positive one. Hubby will be calling dealer back in the morning.
I would still make the measurements and check the wheel alignment I suggested just to be sure.
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