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Old 12-15-2013, 09:22 AM   #11
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Mom Son and daughter driving truck home after delivering horses. She hit some black ice and over-corrected. Speed was reasonable, just a patch of ice.

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Old 12-15-2013, 10:23 AM   #12
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Mom Son and daughter driving truck home after delivering horses. She hit some black ice and over-corrected. Speed was reasonable, just a patch of ice.

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So it had absolutely nothing to do with the truck being overloaded,etc. IMO totally inappropriate for the op's question.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:45 AM   #13
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So it had absolutely nothing to do with the truck being overloaded,etc. IMO totally inappropriate for the op's question.
Yes! Agree completely
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:56 AM   #14
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The end result could be the same.
That's my point.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:58 AM   #15
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So it had absolutely nothing to do with the truck being overloaded,etc. IMO totally inappropriate for the op's question.
Totally agree. Inappropriate to say the least.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:00 AM   #16
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Look into half ton towables and keep it under 7500 dry.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:07 AM   #17
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The end result could be the same.
That's my point.
Sorry BigBaron, I still disagree. Like this one is what happens when you have too much truck!
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:41 AM   #18
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It is way too close, if not over dude. I am most likely going to get a new Ram 1500 Diesel, and thought that maybe I could get one of those small fifth wheels. Yah, for what I need for the family, I would have to go to a 2500. So, I will be sticking to a travel trailer. That may be your best option, too.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:52 AM   #19
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I am sure that the weather had something to do with this accident as well. Need to know the full story, I just hope no one was killed.
Why do so many people blame the weather? It's the drivers fault for not driving to the road and weather conditions every time.
Lame excuse in my opinion.
Ps On the road every day for 40 years driving thru all kinds of weather and never had an accident let alone due to the weather.
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Ok, we'd taken a wild diversion and need to loop back to help the OP.

I'm in the camp that you want to be within all of the ratings for your truck. For this, you need to start with an estimate of how much payload that you have available to you. To do that, start with the cargo carrying capacity sticker on your truck. It'll say something to the effect of "the maximum weight of occupants and cargo must not exceed X pounds".

That sticker accounts for the weight of the truck, full fuel and fluids and nothing else. From it, you have to subtract your weight and any passengers/pets that you may have. You also need to take off anything else that you might carry in the truck bed (firewood, coolers, fishing/hunting gear). Additionally, you can ballpark the weight of a hitch. What is left over is what you can carry by way of pin weight which is typically 20-25% of the campers actual loaded weight.

Arriving at the camper's loaded weight is a bit of a guessing game. The most conservative is to take 20-25% of the GVWR of the camper. Less conservative is to take the advertised dry weight and add 1,000-1,500 pounds (or more if you plan on carrying water for dry camping/boondocking).

Is the pin weight within the specs of the truck?

If not, then you have to decide if you're going to knowingly overload your truck or take the hit and upgrade it. It's not my way- but lots of people overload their trucks. If they do, they generally chose to not exceed to the rear axle weight and the tire load capacity (many suggest upgrading your p-rated tires to LT tires for better towing safety).
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