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Old 12-15-2013, 04:02 AM   #1
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Help please towing 5th wheel with ecoboost

How's it going everyone sorry for posting this question, I've seen and read other post about the same topic but I did my own becuz everyone is different so any info I would appreciate

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2013 ford f 150 ecoboost fx4 supercab
6.5 bed
145" wheel base
3.55 rr axle
7200# gvwr
GCWR 15400
Max tow 9600
Front gawr 3900
Rear gawr 3850

5th wheel
2006 aspen by frontier
31ft
Dry weight 8990

Drive from only San Antonio to port aransas a couple times a year I'm a DV so I don't do much but fish and hunt

Is it possible to tow this with my truck, know I'm pushing limits but I don't know much about towing 5th wheels, and figuring specs out so and info and help I would greatly appreciate, or anything I can do to help increase my tow cap and better ride, I know I might need more truck but just got this truck and trying not to move to a 250 but I have a great deal on the aspen able to get it for 8k. Thanks
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:14 AM   #2
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Your trailer is only 600 lbs. less than your max tow, and it's probably heavier than that "empty".
Take that 9,000 from the 15,400 and you have only 6,400 lbs. for your truck!
Add to that the pin weight of around 1,800 in the back of a half-ton truck and it all screams NO.
I'm sure there are those that do it, but there are also those that do base jumping. One of those base jumpers went splat a few weeks ago...

Do you want this to happen?



Be careful whatever you do.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:35 AM   #3
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Your trailer is only 600 lbs. less than your max tow, and it's probably heavier than that "empty".
Take that 9,000 from the 15,400 and you have only 6,400 lbs. for your truck!
Add to that the pin weight of around 1,800 in the back of a half-ton truck and it all screams NO.
I'm sure there are those that do it, but there are also those that do base jumping. One of those base jumpers went splat a few weeks ago...

Do you want this to happen?



Be careful whatever you do.
That is /was a super duty Ford. Something must have really gone wrong there. But I agree totally, you will be over limits pretty quickly with that combo.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:39 AM   #4
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Weight

By the time you figure in another thousand pounds for the coach, water, clothes, food, tools, spare stuff and other miscellaneous stuff, you will be over on your weight. We had the same issue with our 2011 Crusader 270RET, when we figured in all this extra stuff, plus our bikes, we went with the 2500HD 6.0 Gas Silverado. Just got back from Indiana with nothing but praises for the truck and rig combination. Be safe and spend the bucks for a safe rig on the highway, can get awfully lonely out there in the middle of the night:



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How's it going everyone sorry for posting this question, I've seen and read other post about the same topic but I did my own becuz everyone is different so any info I would appreciate

Truck
2013 ford f 150 ecoboost fx4 supercab
6.5 bed
145" wheel base
3.55 rr axle
7200# gvwr
GCWR 15400
Max tow 9600
Front gawr 3900
Rear gawr 3850

5th wheel
2006 aspen by frontier
31ft
Dry weight 8990

Drive from only San Antonio to port aransas a couple times a year I'm a DV so I don't do much but fish and hunt

Is it possible to tow this with my truck, know I'm pushing limits but I don't know much about towing 5th wheels, and figuring specs out so and info and help I would greatly appreciate, or anything I can do to help increase my tow cap and better ride, I know I might need more truck but just got this truck and trying not to move to a 250 but I have a great deal on the aspen able to get it for 8k. Thanks
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:46 AM   #5
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That is a strange photo. It almost looks like a setup or a training accident accident for firefighters. For all the damage to the truck, the horse trailer appears to be completely undamaged. Very strange.
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I think that happened in Belle Plaine Mn. 8 year old girl killed.
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That is /was a super duty Ford. Something must have really gone wrong there. But I agree totally, you will be over limits pretty quickly with that combo.
Basic rule violation would be my guess.
Some people never slow down.
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I am sure that the weather had something to do with this accident as well. Need to know the full story, I just hope no one was killed.

To start there are two numbers I look at on a travel trailer/5th wheel and that is the dry weight/empty and fully loaded.

Then the next set of numbers is on the truck, payload weight and tow weight.
The payload is all of the weight that is inside of the truck from passengers inside of the cab to the weight in the bed.....this number is on a sticker on the drivers side door and this the max payload weight for your truck and in your truck manual.
If there is 400 lbs of weight within the truck then this is subtracted from the max payload weight rating, now your payload is reduced.

Next is the tow rating, the tow rating is the amount of weight that you can drag behind you. You said that your truck is rated for 7200 lbs, at this point in time I have not seen a 5th wheel weigh 7200 lbs fully loaded. My 5th wheel weighs 7700 lbs empty and max of 9995 lbs fully loaded and it is a light model.

Truck manufactures rate payload and tow capacities based on how they are equipped, so you need to know the RV info that you want then get the details on a truck or know what you can tow safely with what you have. Remember, it is not just your live on the line when you are on the road.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:57 AM   #9
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I think that happened in Belle Plaine Mn. 8 year old girl killed.
I wonder what type of hitch was being used in the truck, standard fifth wheel or gooseneck?
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I wonder what type of hitch was being used in the truck, standard fifth wheel or gooseneck?
Another guess.

Lakota horse trailer with living quarters.

https://www.google.com/search?q=lako...h=739&dpr=0.95
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