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Old 02-09-2016, 10:38 PM   #11
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Asquared, thanks for that link. I saw that thread yesterday but it wasn't as in depth then. When I read it it was still more about the OP looking for the sticker. I will study that thread again. Thank you everyone.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:08 AM   #12
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I have read completely the thread ASQ linked and I am thankful for the info and education I have received on this subject. There are many things we will have to consider before we make the jump up to a 5th wheel. Secondly I am glad my plea for help didn't follow the path that thread took. Thanks everyone.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:39 AM   #13
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I think everyone should weight the RV and get correct weights at least once, many people that stubby pencil their weights might be in for a surprise. My current 5th wheel jump for a 19.6 dry pin weight percentage to 24.1 when loaded ready to camp. My personnel feelings that you should stay with in the GVWR and all of the manufacture specs of your truck but many believe that heaviest you should every be is you max axle weights. Going over the GVWR a lot times will exceed you rear tire weight ratings also and that another important safety factor. I feel you can't make a educated guess unless you have the proper verified information but the problem is you won't have those verified numbers till after you purchase the truck and the 5er and load them ready to camp and put it on the scales. Good luck and have fun with your search for the right combo of truck and camper that you can put your love ones and keep them safe and error on the safe side.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:49 AM   #14
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I have read completely the thread ASQ linked and I am thankful for the info and education I have received on this subject. There are many things we will have to consider before we make the jump up to a 5th wheel. Secondly I am glad my plea for help didn't follow the path that thread took. Thanks everyone.
What sent that thread south was someone saying you fine and within specs when the OP posted his payload on the truck was under 2300 lbs and the dry pin on the 5er was over 2500 lbs so over 200 pounds over GVWR before he put any weight in the truck or the 5th wheel.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:54 AM   #15
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Going from a 26 to 36 is a big jump. 5ers will tow so much easier then a TT and you may need a 1ton to pull that thing depending on weight of the trailer and what you need to cover that. I have owned several in the past 18 years. My largest has been a 36 with 4 slides. Finally decided that I didn't need that large of a unit anymore. I'm now back to a 24.7 5er. So much less stress for me. Everyone is different and I certainly wouldn't discourage anyone that wants to go bigger with more comfort. Good luck with your decision and happy camping.
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Old 02-10-2016, 11:32 AM   #16
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If I were getting that unit and if all the numbers were correct, I would get a 350/3500 SRW. But that's just me.

I had a 2011 F450 for two years before my current 2015 F350 SRW now. I just like the SRW better. My F350 loaded up with fuel, the hitch, and us leaves about 3500 lbs. of payload for the rear axle. I am in the process of finding my next toy hauler and our preferred unit so far has a pin weight of approximately 3250 lbs..

I bought a Sherline scale which can handle 5000 lbs. so before we do anything, the pin will be weighed in the back of the truck to confirm whether or not we can sign the papers. Pin weight is all I'm really concerned about.
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Old 02-10-2016, 11:46 AM   #17
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Our plan is to gather as much info, learn as much as we can, then make our best educated purchases. I feel that the TV needs to exceed the max weights of what ever 5th wheel we get. Right now my gasser 1500 Ram meets and exceeds our TT weights, by almost 1k pounds. I prefer to have a good margin of error and not push the limits of the truck or 5th wheel. We are still happy with our TT for now. And are just starting our process to figure out what we want next. Prior to actually getting a new truck we want to have the best possible idea of the size and weight of the 5th wheel we desire. So we can match the vehicle size to the camper size. I am pretty sure I could tow that 16,995 tow hauler with my little 1500 Ram on a flat level road. I am also pretty sure that 1500 wouldn't be able to stop it and would break before we got to a campground. Situations we are looking to avoid. Thanks every one for the constructive advice and help. We have a lot of reading and research to do before we even start kicking tires.


I should have stated that my Dodge 1500 could tow it once.
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I'm a seasonal camper ... not a full nor long timer. I've found many responders on any RV site when it comes to weight opinions beat the tambourine real heavy about what you call total max weight of the RV. We load food and drink, clothes, kitchenware, water skis, chairs, hammock, camping essentials, ice maker, and other stuff and never come near max weight of my fiver nor any of the 3 previous units. Gauge your personal RV life for a real world weight of what normally hooks to your truck. Weigh what you already have loaded and empty for something to go on. You may come to realize you really don't haul around everything including the "kitchen sink".
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I'm a seasonal camper ... not a full nor long timer. I've found many responders on any RV site when it comes to weight opinions beat the tambourine real heavy about what you call total max weight of the RV. We load food and drink, clothes, kitchenware, water skis, chairs, hammock, camping essentials, ice maker, and other stuff and never come near max weight of my fiver nor any of the 3 previous units. Gauge your personal RV life for a real world weight of what normally hooks to your truck. Weigh what you already have loaded and empty for something to go on. You may come to realize you really don't haul around everything including the "kitchen sink".
I have to agree. We have a Rockwood loaded near capacity when we carry a full tank of water. The upgrade we are looking at is 14,500 and we will just transfer our contents we have over to the new trailer. Will never be maximum weight. Looking at what you do vs what the max load might be is a one way to size the truck.
That being said a 1 ton is minimum for the OP trailer.
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Consider a F450 if you are considering an F350. The pricing is so close that it just makes sense to have the larger axle, commercial tires, and far higher tow capacity.
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