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Old 02-10-2016, 01:45 PM   #21
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Probably a dually for that trailer. Had one and never again. Parking spaces are tough enough with a 250 or 350 without the added space needed for the duals. Just the two of us and we cannot come close to maxing our 30' 5er (about 35' total). Pin weight is the most concern, especially with a diesel as that engine weighs more but it will likely pull nearly anything you look at. That engine brake on the diesel is fantastic.
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:45 PM   #22
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With those weights, definitely dual rear wheels. The trailer weight alone is pushing the limits for what a 3/4 ton could do comfortably. The 3000lb pin weight would make me want a dually, just for the added stability at speed.
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:46 PM   #23
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As stated above, the F-450 also has a wider front end, and turns much tighter. My 42' triple axel 5th wheel toy hauler goes across the scales at 19,500 loaded, read to camp. Pin weight is only 18%, with the two full size Harley's in the back. I have a Titan 65 gallon under belly fuel tank, plus hitch weight, plus me, the wife and 4 dogs, so we are close on weight with my F-350 long bed dually diesel. This will probably be the last camper for us, but if I ever think of trading my truck, the next one will be an F-450.
Bottom line, one can never have too much truck!
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:25 PM   #24
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Weight numbers to determine a tow vehicle. I thought I had a basic understanding of this stuff, and the more we look into 5th wheels the more I realize I have no idea what I am doing. LOL Currently we have a 2013 Surveyor Sport SP260 that has fit our family well for the past three years. It is towed with a Ram 1500 5.9L with factory tow package. We know we have to upgrade to a newer TV when we make the jump to a 5th wheel.

Case in point, we looked at a Dutchman Voltage 3605 that has the dry weight of 13,555 and 2,992 hitch (is this also called pin?) weight. With a total max weight of 16,800. I have seen slightly different numbers depending on which site have looked at. I have trolled the Ford, Chevy and Ram site playing around building a truck to pull weight such as these. Again my 5th wheel knowledge is very slim, but I have seen many "large" 5th wheels being pulled by HD 250/2500 non dually trucks. Are all these people thumbing their nose at the Weight Police? Could someone help break this info down to a beginner lever and layman speak?
Yes that is the pin wt. and I would get a 1 ton tv and GMC gets better fuel milage than the rest. My dually gets 24 on the hwy. without trl. and wind and hills always affect towing mi. the lowest i've got was 11 and best in Az 17 mi.
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:27 PM   #25
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Consider a F450 if you are considering an F350. The pricing is so close that it just makes sense to have the larger axle, commercial tires, and far higher tow capacity.
I talk to a gentleman that had F450 and had trouble getting insurance because they claimed in was commercial truck and he would be required to be cover by a commercial policy that was very expensive. Did you have any trouble getting insurance?
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Old 02-10-2016, 03:19 PM   #26
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Go to your local RV dealer they have a book with the listings of what your truck can handle vai bumper or 5th wheel. I was surprised I was able to take on 1k more in weight without my truck being a 4x4. Make sure you see it in the book don't take the on the fly answer just so they can make a sale. I went to LazyDays (did not buy there) and they helped answer all my questions about weight and showed me in the book.
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Old 02-10-2016, 03:22 PM   #27
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I talk to a gentleman that had F450 and had trouble getting insurance because they claimed in was commercial truck and he would be required to be cover by a commercial policy that was very expensive. Did you have any trouble getting insurance?
Only about 3 companies will register it as a commercial vehicle. I use State farm and they do not. Most dont
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Yes that is the pin wt. and I would get a 1 ton tv and GMC gets better fuel milage than the rest. My dually gets 24 on the hwy. without trl. and wind and hills always affect towing mi. the lowest i've got was 11 and best in Az 17 mi.
24mpg with a GMC dually? Sorry but I have to call BS unless your truck is going downhill ALWAYs. Reality for a 16 Duramax Dually is closer to 18mpg unloaded. If you get 24mpg I'll claim I get 25mpg with my F450
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Old 02-10-2016, 03:40 PM   #29
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A 3500 or 4500 duallie should do ya.....
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Old 02-10-2016, 03:56 PM   #30
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IronCobra ... he's probably seeing that on the "lie-o-meter" in the MPG dash readout. Coasting to a stop, My VW will read 99MPG just before it goes blank due to being out of range. If that is true calculated by gallons between fill-up milage ... he'd better never ever get rid of that truck.
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