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04-02-2013, 10:52 PM
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2008 F-250 PSD 4x4 Pullrite 15K Superglide hitch
Crusader 290 RLT scale weight 10,250 (unhitched)
Trailer Axle Weight (hitched) 8600
Pin Weight 1650
Trailer adds 1650 to truck rear axle and 10 pounds to front axle
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04-02-2013, 10:55 PM
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So again- it's not much, but it is definitely adding *some* weight to the front axle; not taking any away.
Thanks.
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04-02-2013, 11:06 PM
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Engineer of Crazy Train
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My old Dually, when I loaded the race car on, the front did squat just a tad. Never scaled it (And I really don't want to know how overloaded I was). If I could recall, my hitch was a few inches in front of the axle. I think I had holes to move it up and down and forward and back....but this is going back to the 90s...
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04-02-2013, 11:33 PM
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Another possibility... it may just be scale accuracy and sensitivity.
Considering a 20 lb variance in relation to 5200 lbs is less than 0.4%
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04-03-2013, 04:47 AM
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Like you, I always feel a bit intimidated at the CAT scales. The last time we went camping, I weighed the entire rig so I had the individual truck axles and the camper combined axle weight. Then, I got the truck on one scale and split the camper axles. I then should have got the truck without the camper and I was in too much of a hurry to go camping. So, I now need to take the truck with a full tank of fuel and the wife and dog and see what my truck weights are. If I do that anytime soon, I'll post them here.
I too have the Ford factory installed hitch and I've noticed that I can't really see the front of the truck squat when I lower the 5er on it.
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04-03-2013, 06:21 AM
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Wouldn't your pin weight be the difference between the 2 drive axle weights and not the difference between the 2 gross figures?
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04-03-2013, 07:30 AM
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04-03-2013, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttrost65
Wouldn't your pin weight be the difference between the 2 drive axle weights and not the difference between the 2 gross figures?
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That's about where I'm at. The drive axle differences is 2,300. My claimed pin weight is 2,280 (accounting for the front axle being unloaded by 20 pounds).
Good question/comment-though, because the front being unloaded by 20 pounds is caused by the weight of the pin pushing down in the back.
Guess I need to google a bit today...
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04-03-2013, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe_GA
Like you, I always feel a bit intimidated at the CAT scales. The last time we went camping, I weighed the entire rig so I had the individual truck axles and the camper combined axle weight. Then, I got the truck on one scale and split the camper axles. I then should have got the truck without the camper and I was in too much of a hurry to go camping. So, I now need to take the truck with a full tank of fuel and the wife and dog and see what my truck weights are. If I do that anytime soon, I'll post them here.
I too have the Ford factory installed hitch and I've noticed that I can't really see the front of the truck squat when I lower the 5er on it.
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What l liked about doing it all at once is that there were no changes in the truck, what we were carrying or even amount of fuel. But- between wanting to get camping and the stress of parking the camper with the big trucks, I can see skipping it.
Of course I "lucked" into the smallest truck stop that I've ever stopped at for this.
The whole gas up and weighing process took 30-40 minutes.
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04-03-2013, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sidney
Another possibility... it may just be scale accuracy and sensitivity.
Considering a 20 lb variance in relation to 5200 lbs is less than 0.4%
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Hmm. I can see your point, but it still nags at me...
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04-03-2013, 08:32 AM
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20 lbs either way is not going to be noticeable. You are over thinking this. Your setup is about as close to perfect as you can get.
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04-03-2013, 08:34 AM
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^^^^ sigh, the story of my life.
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04-03-2013, 10:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lbrjet
20 lbs either way is not going to be noticeable. You are over thinking this. Your setup is about as close to perfect as you can get.
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X-2 ....... Just know you won't have a WHITE KNUCKLE driving experience and
enjoy your family... nice work on the set up
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04-03-2013, 10:10 AM
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Always Learning
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Thanks. I made a point of going against recommendations by family who camp and got the dually anyway. At this point, I'm glad that I did it - even with the hassles that come along with it.
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04-03-2013, 10:54 AM
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My pin is about 2 to 3 inches fdw of my axle, I installed it to the manufacturer directions and my tk has a locating hole to start the hitch install. When I scaled I am setting about 200 lbs from steer max , and 1k from drive max
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04-03-2013, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jevanb
My pin is about 2 to 3 inches fdw of my axle, I installed it to the manufacturer directions and my tk has a locating hole to start the hitch install. When I scaled I am setting about 200 lbs from steer max , and 1k from drive max
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If you know - how much does your steer axle change when your fifth wheel is hooked up vs. when it's not?
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04-03-2013, 12:19 PM
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I have not had time to get back onto the scales empty yet, I drive past them everyday but one reason or another the truck is not configured
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04-23-2013, 09:13 PM
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If you put some airbags on the truck will that push some weight to the front axle of the truck?
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04-23-2013, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon327
If you put some airbags on the truck will that push some weight to the front axle of the truck?
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No. Only helps with sag.
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