Originally Posted by herk7769
The empty weight of the van; was it truly empty or was it loaded as you would when camping? IE full of family and gear with hitch installed?
Van had a full tank of gas. Only items inside were a couple of napkins, a frozen 12oz bottle of water (its MN), and my wallet (almost as empty as the van). No passengers either. I stood outside while it was weighed so I can know the precise weight by what I put inside when I travel and usually start off with a full tank of gas.
Hitch installed? The hitch in the picture is installed. Not sure if thats what you are referring to.
Originally Posted by mtnguy
I ran the figures from your other thread. Even though you have gained 1600 lbs. of GVWR over your E150, that is not what you have gained in payload because of this being a heavier vehicle to start with......the new van weighs 1000 lbs. more, empty. But......you have gained 600 lbs. of payload over the E150........1760 lbs. vs. the 1160 lbs. of the E150.
With a properly setup WDH and sway control, this new van should work well for towing the new Roo. Enjoy.
Your figures and mine seem to be about the same. With the E-150 I was looking at being over a couple numbers (GCWR, TV GVWR) most of the time by a couple houndred pounds. Now it looks like I will be slightly under those limits with the new TV.
All of the talk on here about vans, by those who are in the know, seems to have played itself out here in that "conversion" vans truly are a heavy beast and dont offer up as much towing capacity when you match them up with their pickup counterpart.
I'm adding as you say a 1,000 lbs (empty) to the Chevy Express 2500 compared to the E-150 but my engine is getting a boost from the 5.4 to the 6.0. Will that give me any sort of boost/help towing after considering in the extra weight of the TV's at max GVWR (7,000 lbs compared to 8,600 lbs). I would have been over the 7,000 and will be darn near close to the 8,600 with the Chevy 2500.
I really believe that no conversions should be done on any 1/2 ton van, especially if you are going to tow. There are no margins at all. I have learned thru this process that I have been towing over the GVWR of my E-150 for most of the trips I have taken over the last 11 years. The van has been filled with two to three full coolers, two large bins of food (lots of it canned), four kids, and other gear. I have been over limits and only towing a popup (1,700 lbs empty). Most of the gear was stowed in the van. Comfy...NOT!
One final question...does anyone know how much those hi-top roofs weigh? Mine is a high top and I'm wondering how much, if any, weight would have been shaved off if I had purchased a low-top. My E-150 was a low-top too.
A huge thank you for all the input from everyone and the questions. I have spent lots of time researching this and the next time a TT passes me on the freeway (MPG and SPEED..more questions to come) I will never look at it the same as before when pulling the popup and I was the one doing the passing.