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Old 04-01-2013, 10:04 AM   #1
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Hmmm Dealership pushing me towards the 150 max tow?

So I had pretty much decided on an 2011 F250 6.2 Gasser with 60000km and upon going to the dealership and explaining what I needed it for they started pushing me towards a 2012 ecoboost crew cab with max tow and only 7200km(4000miles) on it for the same price?!!? Now our trailer (we haven't picked it up yet) is a 2013 Puma 31DBTS with a shipped weight of 8867# So, by my guestimate I figure with our belongings and so on we are probably looking at a weight of just over 10000# with a tongue weight of near 1200-1300# Now we will have our trailer at a seasonal site and probably only tow it once this year from the dealership to the campground. In the future we might travel with it to a max radius of 200km(120miles) This truck will be a daily driver so, the fuel consumption of the ecoboost vs the 6.2 is appealing. Now I have over 2 million miles commercial truck driving experience so I'm no newbie to towing sizable trailers (pulled tandum 53' trailers for a while) Just wondering if anyone has a similar setup to the ecoboost and large trailer and how they feel it works for them?
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:06 AM   #2
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ah, with all that weight, I'd go Diesel.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:27 AM   #3
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ah, with all that weight, I'd go Diesel.
for the amount i drive/tow in a year a diesel is a waste of money. I put maybe 20000km a year on my vehicle
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:41 AM   #4
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This is the age old qaundry people face.

From the weights you are giving, and even with the surprising tow and payload ratings of the maxtow package in the F150, this sounds like solid F250 territory.

What is the GVWR of that Puma? With a dry weight of almost 9K, your tongue weight will certainly be 1200lbs or more, you are right to be concerned about that.

What are the specific tow numbers on the F-150? CCC etc.?

I just cannot imagine you would be under the RAWR, GCVWR and CCC with that trailer. At least oen the three is going to be over for the F150. I know the better MPG for daily driving would be great, but you have to ask yourself if it is truly worth it.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:44 AM   #5
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Guess you need to see what the max payload is on the sticker in the drivers door and do some caculating on axle weights etc. I think the Max tow /payload units are around 1900lb payload but I could be wrong. Pretty hard to do without the trailer. You need to consider the EB also has a max tongue weight of 1200lbs of course some F250's are also rated the same (as is mine as it is a 9600lb GVWR model) The EB will ride much better as well as a DD vs the superduty over the better gas mileage too but you may want to consider the what if we do decide to start hauling the trailer around more as well.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:47 AM   #6
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There's a recent thread with payload calculation with a F150 max tow as an example. Here's the link... Payload Calculation Realities

Plug your numbers in.

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Old 04-01-2013, 11:31 AM   #7
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Max receiver weight on the F150 max tow is 1150lbs. That should answer your question.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:03 PM   #8
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That trailer is listed at close to 36', over 11,000 GVWR, and an empty tongue weight at 879 lbs......that tongue weight is gonna probably be well over 1000 lbs. ready to camp.

Since it is a bunkhouse model, that indicates a family, and passenger weight. With the passengers, cargo, and tongue weight, that is going to send most 1/2 ton pickups over the GVWR, and possible the GCWR as well. An ecoboost with lowest final ratio (high number) drive possible, the maximum tow package, and the maximum payload package may work, but it would be borderline.

That trailer would be better suited hooked up to a long wheel based 3/4 ton (or bigger) truck.
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Altho the fuel economy of that Eco Boost is appealing, think long-term. You might be OK towing that trailer with a half ton truck but what are you going to do when it's time to upgrade to a heavier trailer or fiver?? The obvious answer is to trade in the 1/2 ton. I've never really heard anyone beech about having too much truck. Give it some thought.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:02 PM   #10
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Altho the fuel economy of that Eco Boost is appealing, think long-term. You might be OK towing that trailer with a half ton truck but what are you going to do when it's time to upgrade to a heavier trailer or fiver?? The obvious answer is to trade in the 1/2 ton. I've never really heard anyone beech about having too much truck. Give it some thought.
Won't be upgrading any time soon yo a larger trailer and like I said I will be only towing it to the park from the dealership this year. Next year we may venture off to a few other parks near by. There are only 3 of us in our family so don't let the sleeping capacity of the trailer let you guys run off on tangents. I confirmed with the ExPERIENCED dealership about this option and they said it would be perfect for my situation. So thanks for all the help/rants and so on lol but I'm pretty confident about my abilities as a professional driver and the abilities of this truck tt combo
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