How do you feel about towing?

[moose074]

Like most people have said your good to go well within all numbers enjoy

[lamokadave]

Originally Posted by gbaldwin

This is all door sticker info on my F150 with towing package... of course using WD hitch. My Surveyor has a Dry weight on sticker of 4601 lbs.

I cant seem to get a straight answer nor a simple formula ....

How do you guys feel about this TV/TT combo.

5.0 L V8 F150 Super Crew.

With info you and others shared, you look reasonable. The unknown to all but you however is what changes have you made to the truck beyond how it left the factory. Anything you added adds weight and reduces payload. Common examples are large tool boxes or heavy bed caps.

[gbaldwin]

thanks to all.... good info

[thecastle]

The real key to towing "comfortably", isn't any magic ratio of tow vehicle to trailer. Though you can compensate somewhat for a bad towing setup with an over sized tow vehicle.

Its getting both vehicles setup correctly, which so many people neglect to do as it takes some time, consideration, and knowledge. Assuming your not operating outside the specs of either vehicle.

The most important things are getting the trailer loaded correctly so you have even weight side to side and the correct amount of tongue weight 10-15% depending on how fast you want to go. Most people guess at this but I can tell you you can't tell if you have things loaded correctly by eyeballing the trailer, only by measuring the weights.

Watch this video about how just poorly loading a trailer can make a HUGE difference in towing comfort, really!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWd8ml9mFMo

Next make sure when your loaded that the tow vehicle and trailer tow level. This is really key, I see folks all the time with saggy trucks especially if they lift them with soft suspension. Or worse having the truck level and the trailer hitch high and the rear of the trailer sagging. This is the most likely way to sway when the trailer is unbalanced. Take measurements to make sure your towing level, both the tow vehicle and trialer should be close to level when on level ground. Adding helper springs maybe necessary as lots of trucks have soft suspensions that sag under load (not all).

Trailer brakes are always a good idea

Finally, if your still having difficulties a WDH can go a long ways.

How not to tow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPmnBpQmX1g

[Oaklevel]

Originally Posted by gbaldwin

This is all door sticker info on my F150 with towing package... of course using WD hitch. My Surveyor has a Dry weight on sticker of 4601 lbs.

I cant seem to get a straight answer nor a simple formula ....

How do you guys feel about this TV/TT combo.

5.0 L V8 F150 Super Crew.

I think that you are ok........ but

A couple things never go by dry weight as it is a near meaningless number, it is the trailer weight as it left the factory with almost nothing in it. Gross weight will be closer to actual.

The second thing is to go to a CAT or other scale to find your actual weight.
https://catscale.com/cat-scale-locator/ (the web site will also tell you how to weigh) make sure that your trailer is not overloaded.

[JohnD10]

The second thing is to go to a CAT or other scale to find your actual weight.

Add this to that sentence...

'Actual weight loaded the way you will be towing it to a campground'.

Because that is what you will be towing...not an empty trailer.

[Jfkmk]

Originally Posted by gbaldwin

Thanks to all. All positive answers... I feeeeeel good...

Had this set up 2 years and thought I did good research. Seems OK... Some dude camping next to me for a few days last week went ON and ON all weekend about I cant believe you are pulling that with that F150... finally got me paranoid.

Jackass....

Always differences of opinion on this issue.

I hope you told him to mind his own business.

[TheWolfPaq82]

Originally Posted by gbaldwin

This is all door sticker info on my F150 with towing package... of course using WD hitch. My Surveyor has a Dry weight on sticker of 4601 lbs.

I cant seem to get a straight answer nor a simple formula ....

How do you guys feel about this TV/TT combo.

5.0 L V8 F150 Super Crew.

Go Camping and HAVE FUN !!!

[Yowman]

Oh heck yeah!

[Rick J]

We have a 2014 F150 and a 30 ft. Surveyor Cadet. Dry weight 4900 lbs. We tow it to Apache Junction from Calgary and back each year 6000 kms. Round trip. Never an issue. The F150 is a towing machine.

[Beachbourbon]

would tow that set up

[CaptnJohn]

I tow d more than that with an f150. Truck came with P tires changed them to LT and all was good!

[Rick J]

You don't need any after market parts. You are well within limits. As I posted before I tow a 30 ft. Surveyor with a 2014 F150 screw. Officially weighed at Cat Dcale I am 1800 lbs. Under gcvwr

[whaines]

Do your own homework! fifthwheelst.com rv site to figure your capacity

[Tampajohn]

Originally Posted by Go West

Another consideration is the ratio of trailer length to tow-vehicle wheelbase. As with all the other measures cited above, your F-150 and Surveyor are well-matched within this parameter. (A quick search indicates your F-150's wheelbase is at least 145".)

According to this general rule of thumb: the first 110 inches of tow-vehicle wheelbase allows for a 20-foot trailer. For each additional four inches of wheelbase length, you get one foot more in trailer length.

Trailer Length____ TV Wheelbase

___20'___________________110"
___21'___________________114"
___22'___________________118"
___23'___________________122"
___24'___________________126"
___25'___________________130"
___26'___________________134"
___27'___________________138"
___28'___________________142"
___29'___________________146"
___30'___________________150"
___31'___________________154"
___32'___________________158"
___33'___________________162"
___34'___________________166"
___35'___________________170"
___36'___________________174"
___37'___________________178"
___38'___________________182"
___39'___________________186"
___40'___________________190"

Your close but should work. Great chart.

[Mipo]

May be look at the Ford Towing guides for towing capacity. They are all here.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/

[ColoRobbie]

I had a 2012 F-150 with Eco-Boost and the tow package. My TT is a Surveyor BHS245, it weighs around 5,200 lbs. I towed it with the F-150 for two years and it wasn't the engine that had a problem, it was the transmission. I live in Colorado and it would overheat on any hill where I had to drop below 45 MPH. I had to have the rear end re-built once and it was acting a little funny a year later when I traded it in on a 2016 Ford F-250 Diesel.
I LOVE the F-150's, I just don't think they are meant for heavy towing.

[plaso20]

The 2014 Ford F-150 offers a maximum conventional towing capacity of between 8,000 and 11,300 pounds for conventional trailers, with exact figures based on several available engines, drivetrains, body styles and optional towing equipment. The F-150 can tow up to 11,300 pounds for fifth-wheel trailers with optional equipment.
The 2014 Ford F-150 contains one of four engines: a 3.7-liter V-6, a 3.5-liter turbocharged V-6, a 5.0-liter V-8 or a 6.2-liter V-8. In general, the 3.7-liter has the lowest available towing capacity, followed by the 5.0-liter V-8. The 3.5-liter EcoBoost turbo engine and 6.2-liter V-8 offer similar levels of towing performance.
The maximum conventional trailer towing figure of 11,300 pounds comes specifically on the 145-inch-wheelbase 2014 F-150 when fitted with the EcoBoost V-6 and Heavy Duty Payload Package and either two-wheel or four-wheel drive. For fifth-wheel towing, several trim levels and body styles of both the EcoBoost and 6.2-liter models can attain the maximum figure of 11,300 pounds.

[RET.LEO]

Dad had a livestock feed store. All we used was 3/4 ton trucks for "light duty" larger trucks for heavy work. We always considered 1/2 tons were "city people trucks" real pickups were 3/4................ still a fan of 3/4 even w/out a towing need. Ford F250 is a great truck...........better too much TV than close or just enough

[alb2tpa]

Originally Posted by plaso20

The 2014 Ford F-150 offers a maximum conventional towing capacity of between 8,000 and 11,300 pounds for conventional trailers, with exact figures based on several available engines, drivetrains, body styles and optional towing equipment. The F-150 can tow up to 11,300 pounds for fifth-wheel trailers with optional equipment.
The 2014 Ford F-150 contains one of four engines: a 3.7-liter V-6, a 3.5-liter turbocharged V-6, a 5.0-liter V-8 or a 6.2-liter V-8. In general, the 3.7-liter has the lowest available towing capacity, followed by the 5.0-liter V-8. The 3.5-liter EcoBoost turbo engine and 6.2-liter V-8 offer similar levels of towing performance.
The maximum conventional trailer towing figure of 11,300 pounds comes specifically on the 145-inch-wheelbase 2014 F-150 when fitted with the EcoBoost V-6 and Heavy Duty Payload Package and either two-wheel or four-wheel drive. For fifth-wheel towing, several trim levels and body styles of both the EcoBoost and 6.2-liter models can attain the maximum figure of 11,300 pounds.

Post #35 above shows that "great chart". Says you can only pull a 30 footer. Don't see many 30 footers weighing in around 11,300#. These ultra conservative charts must be made for the lowest possible skill rating imaginable....