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Old 04-26-2019, 10:45 AM   #1
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How do you feel about towing?

This is all door sticker info on my F150 with towing package... of course using WD hitch. My Surveyor has a Dry weight on sticker of 4601 lbs.

I cant seem to get a straight answer nor a simple formula ....

How do you guys feel about this TV/TT combo.

5.0 L V8 F150 Super Crew.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:23 AM   #2
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To help members with feedback, here is general specs for your trailer:

2016 200MBLE Specifications

Sleeps 3
Slides 1
Length 23 ft 8 in
Ext Width 8 ft
Ext Height 11 ft
Int Height 6 ft 11 in
Hitch Weight 480 lbs
Dry Weight 4601 lbs
Cargo Weight 2879 lbs
Fresh Water Capacity 46 gals
Grey Water Capacity 40 gals
Black Water Capacity 30 gals
Furnace BTU 20000 btu
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:26 AM   #3
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id go full send...

if your trailer is 4600 dry, add 1400 for gear (excessive?) 6K even

13% of that is 780 lbs.

1599-780 leaves 819lbs for gear and people in the truck.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:26 AM   #4
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you are ok with that combo.
You have enough payload and enough towing capacity .
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:28 AM   #5
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at max capacity (7480 lbs)

13% tongue weight is 972 lbs


1599-972 leaves 627 for truck capacity, still very doable.
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:16 PM   #6
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Based on your numbers, if it's you and the wife and maybe a couple of small kids, you should be good to go. If you don't have any kids or are empty nesters, so much the better.
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:20 PM   #7
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I would tow that all day with your truck, or mine (similar trucks).
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:28 PM   #8
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Agreed. Good to go on camper weight, payload and overall combination of the truck and trailer. It should be a well matched setup.
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:37 PM   #9
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Thanks to all. All positive answers... I feeeeeel good...

Had this set up 2 years and thought I did good research. Seems OK... Some dude camping next to me for a few days last week went ON and ON all weekend about I cant believe you are pulling that with that F150... finally got me paranoid.

Jackass....

Always differences of opinion on this issue.

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Old 04-26-2019, 02:38 PM   #10
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Oh heck yes. I was pulling around 6500 with my 2003 F150 S-crew. 28ft long for almost 8 years.
You're good.
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Another consideration is the ratio of trailer length to tow-vehicle wheelbase. As with all the other measures cited above, your F-150 and Surveyor are well-matched within this parameter. (A quick search indicates your F-150's wheelbase is at least 145".)

According to this general rule of thumb: the first 110 inches of tow-vehicle wheelbase allows for a 20-foot trailer. For each additional four inches of wheelbase length, you get one foot more in trailer length.

Trailer Length____ TV Wheelbase

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Old 04-26-2019, 03:26 PM   #12
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I have a 05 Gmc serria it said my gvw 6500 my camper said it light weight is 6000. I have a 26 rbws Flagstaff.you think I be alright towing it
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You are sort of near the max towing on payload. I would suggest the first time you tow you check the rear. See how far down the bed goes down. Sumotomo or other similar overloads might be needed.

Over 3” should be corrected. Air up those tires.
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Old 04-26-2019, 05:29 PM   #14
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Your numbers look good.

A comment on WDH
A WDH does nothing to change the truck weight capacity numbers or the towed trailer weight capacity numbers. They only help distribute some weight to truck front tires.
Just as air bags do not change your weight carry and payload capacity. They help level up a sagging rear.

Some capacity increase can be found with Factory or model correct tow packages.
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Old 04-26-2019, 05:52 PM   #15
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I'm towing a trailer dry wt of 5200 with f150 5L extended cab with tow package and WD. Guess if I'd figure full loaded wt. I'd be close. Handles it fine.
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This is all door sticker info on my F150 with towing package... of course using WD hitch. My Surveyor has a Dry weight on sticker of 4601 lbs.

I cant seem to get a straight answer nor a simple formula ....

How do you guys feel about this TV/TT combo.

5.0 L V8 F150 Super Crew.
If you truly want to know you should weigh it. Costs $10 and you may learn you want to tune the WDH setup a bit. It also stops those conversations cold.

That thing holds over a ton of gear! That is huge! I think 1500lbs is a lot so unless you have lots of people or piles of stuff you should be good. My TT has a lower gross weight but I bet what I pull with my F150 weighs more than what you actually do with all that cargo carrying capacity.
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You are sort of near the max towing on payload. I would suggest the first time you tow you check the rear. See how far down the bed goes down. Sumotomo or other similar overloads might be needed.

Over 3” should be corrected. Air up those tires.
Tom if you are talking to me .when I add my wdh bars it raises the truck back up does that help me or what should i add to the truck
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:40 PM   #18
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When you lift a truck more than 3” it causes undue strain on the running gear.

Same deal if you change the angle down 3-4” it is hard on the drive. Just would not want to do this years.

The truck should be sort of rear up a bit on most trucks.

I would measure the unloaded tailgate height today and when hitched up. Likely you are ok. The overloads are easy. Put them on mine. 4 bolts.

If curious cat scales are only $14 the last time I was there.
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When you lift a truck more than 3” it causes undue strain on the running gear.

Same deal if you change the angle down 3-4” it is hard on the drive. Just would not want to do this years.

The truck should be sort of rear up a bit on most trucks.

I would measure the unloaded tailgate height today and when hitched up. Likely you are ok. The overloads are easy. Put them on mine. 4 bolts.

If curious cat scales are only $14 the last time I was there.
Thanks I will check before hooking up I try to even out the truck bed and when i pull it the first time it seem to be ok.I put mind on three bc mind is the chain type whd
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That's not a Max Tow package on that truck. I would take a pass, the trailer is too heavy.

Been there with a 2009 5.4 L with 8,000 lb CCC and no Max Tow. I bought a max tow ecoboost with 1900 lbs CCC.
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