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Old 03-20-2014, 12:40 PM   #201
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I would argue with your definition of "a few hundred pounds more" . My Silverado 1500 extended cab tow vehicle weighed in at 5500 lbs with a GVWR of 7000. I traded up to an F350 diesel crew cab SRW standard bed weighing 8100 lbs with GVWR of 13500. So that is close to 50% heavier tow vehicle, and you really can feel it on the road.
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:18 PM   #202
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Against my better judgment, PAYLOAD is on the suspension! With the 100# of tires, it would reduce the GVWR by 100#.

Assume original sticker GVWR is 8,000# and payload is 2,000#, the new tires add 100# to the wt of the truck. SO, the new GVWR with the extra 100# of tires is now 7,900#, but the payload is still 2,000#. IF, you added a 150# hitch, the available payload is now 1850# and the GVWR is still 7,900# with the new tires. Now, I'm outa here.
I know you said you're out- but I'll respond anyway. My understanding is that a truck with a GVWR of 8,000 and a payload of 2,000 MUST weigh 6,000 unloaded. If that's not your understanding, then it is now clear to me where this is getting mixed up.
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:28 PM   #203
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But, but, but, it can pull the space shuttle and everyone know that the 'ego boost' is as good as a diesel, thats why they're standard in f250 & 350s
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:32 PM   #204
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But, but, but, it can pull the space shuttle and everyone know that the 'ego boost' is as good as a diesel, thats why they're standard in f250 & 350s
Uhhhhhhh. Toyota is the one with the ad pulling the space shuttle. And I don't think anyone has ever said it is as good as a diesel at pulling, but it pulls much better than any naturally aspirated gas engine- like it or not.
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:01 PM   #205
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I know you said you're out- but I'll respond anyway. My understanding is that a truck with a GVWR of 8,000 and a payload of 2,000 MUST weigh 6,000 unloaded. If that's not your understanding, then it is now clear to me where this is getting mixed up.
No, it must NOT weight over 6000# without exceeding the posted sticker weight.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:53 PM   #206
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After reading all this arguing over the different sides of the same coin I have decided it is time for a cocktail.
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And I thoought everyone knew that 1/2 ton pickups are the 'soccer moms mini van of the 21st century"
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And I thoought everyone knew that 1/2 ton pickups are the 'soccer moms mini van of the 21st century"
Naw, some of us po' folk actually use 'em to try to pull 5er's rather than buy BIG trucks and go into debt.
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