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Old 07-07-2012, 12:18 PM   #51
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OK I'm qualified. My experience.

As some have pointed out, 1/2 ton is such a mis-used statement anymore. It is now "series" or "class". And within the series, you have to run the numbers with the truck AND the trailer. I bought a new truck (GMC 1500) and trailer within months of each other because I did my homework. My 1500 is loaded with 6.2 engine, heavy duty tow package, disk brakes, integrated brake controller, etc. I'm pulling a 29' Sabre light weight 5th wheel, well within the truck limits. My experience has been extremely satisfactory. I might add, this 5er pulls and handles better than the 18' bumper pull I pulled with my '99 GMC. Tow vehicle and trailer need to work together. There are several combinations that will work. But, towing on the edge of capabilities (I'll add driver and equipment capabilities) is asking for trouble.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:46 PM   #52
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You also have to remember that once you buy the tv and 5er, there is not much you can do to remedy the wt problem. You may be able to shift some of the load, but basically you are stuck with it, so keep both vehicles in top mechanical condition and enjoy your purchases.
With that being said, everyone that says "so and so" is unsafe never explain just what is unsafe. It is just what they personally think. What I consider unsafe may be std. oper. procedure to someone else. So those that say something is unsafe, please explain yourself. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:00 PM   #53
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Thumbs down How about just a little "over"?

This is the thread I've been waiting for! I especially like "DRETIRED" input. Here's my spin on the issue: I have an F-150 w/tow pkg, etc. It's a 12 FX2. Looking at 5Ws in the 1400 to 1700 pin weight range. If the Ford owner's guide numbers run out at me having (somewhat conservatively) 1200# available what's chances of using this for a couple years, short trips, level to rolling terrain and never in a hurry. I'm somewhat happy to see ACTUAL information about these so-called 1/2 ton rigs. Thanks for any factual histories!
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:41 PM   #54
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This is the thread I've been waiting for! I especially like "DRETIRED" input. Here's my spin on the issue: I have an F-150 w/tow pkg, etc. It's a 12 FX2. Looking at 5Ws in the 1400 to 1700 pin weight range. If the Ford owner's guide numbers run out at me having (somewhat conservatively) 1200# available what's chances of using this for a couple years, short trips, level to rolling terrain and never in a hurry. I'm somewhat happy to see ACTUAL information about these so-called 1/2 ton rigs. Thanks for any factual histories!
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Bill .. I added 2 leaf springs to my F 150...cost..$231(installed) at Northern Spring..Macomb,Mi..that helped with keeping the truck level...if..i would had a clue that i would have sold a 26ft TT and bought a 33 ft 5th wheel (in 1 year ).. My choice would be..A 2012 F150 ..Super Crew 3.5 ECOBOOST... 4x2 (yes 4x2).. 6 1/2 foot box.. 3.73 limited slip rear axel..HEAVY DUTY PAYLOAD PACKAGE..and MAX TOWING PACKAGE...theses are 2 seperate ..very important options..XLT or Lariat trim level...11,300 lbs towing in either TT or 5th wheel...and 2,600 lbs payload..
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:04 PM   #55
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WE pull a 2003 Wildcat 27RL with a 2008 Toyota Tundra and have no problems either going or stopping or climbing mountains or going down mountains. It works for me.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:06 PM   #56
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I cringe every time I see the words "short trips", like that all of a sudden makes a tow vehicle capable of pulling and stopping a larger trailer. If this is true, I guess I could tow a 12K lb 5th wheel with a honda civic to my neighbors house, it could do it I'm sure. Sure, only a short trip infrequenctly might put less wear on the TV, but it does nothing to make it safer, or less likely of getting into a traffic situation where hard breaking or swerving may be required.

Most traffic accidents happen close to home, so that makes long trips safer. no I'm not serious.

Anyways, bottom line is if you don't think your rig can tow for a long distance, why can it tow for a short distance anytime you feel like it?
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Agreed: 150 ECOBOOST with HEAVY DUTY PAYLOAD PACKAGE and MAX TOWING PACKAGE is NOT a "1/2" ton, so if you pull a 5th with this truck, start a new thread.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:20 PM   #57
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I enjoy pulling our 8528RKWS with my 2009 Tundra. I know I am over the payload once I load up. I do my best to limit the weight in the truck and basement. We do what we can to load behind the axle but the basement is a magnet for my stuff. I will need to replace the Tundra in the next few years do to the high mileage I put on it daily. As of today the replacement will be another Tundra.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:32 PM   #58
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I am towing a 12 Flagstaff 8528 with an 05 Silverado Ext. Cab 1500 short bed with airbags & onboard compressor. Supposedly I am grossly over weight, but have towed it over 1500 miles so far and have no problems whatsoever either pulling it or stopping it. Have added shocks to the trailer and have not experienced the chucking or dophining/porpoising. The trailer follows the contour of the road and neither exaggerates or continues the action after crossing that section of wavy road. We are very pleased with the whole rig. It may wear the truck out prematurely, but at our age, we will either rebuild it or hang it up permanently and sell what's left.
which shocks for the trailer ??
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Towing a 7900lb UVW with a Ram 1500 QC 4x4. Works well for me. I did add Timbrens for levelling purposes.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:27 PM   #60
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Towing with a 1/2 ton

Just join the forum few days ago. We have a 2011 Silverado 1500 5.3L with 3.42 axle and HD cooling. Our 5th wheel is a Rockwood Ultra lite 8280WS. Pin weight of 1150 and loaded 8439 including the pin weight (I had It weight). We have gone on a few trips to the beach with no real issue. I watch the trans temperature which has climbed to 250 – 275 on a grade and drop to 225 or less during normal towing. Outside temperature was 95-100. I was thinking of switching to synthetic transmission fluid like Amsoil or something similar. I am also looking into a K&N cold air induction kit and maybe a cat back exhaust.
Just wondering what the group’s thoughts are and what experience someone may have had…. Thanks
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