How much trailer can i tow comfortably with '14 Tundra 5.7L pickup.

[lotsip]

Hi guys, recently upgraded to a '14 Tundra, sr5 double cab, 5.7L, 4x4, off road, for towing my 3,000lb, '14 Forest River Salem Cruise Lite 185rb travel trailer.

Haven't towed it yet, but, I suspect this truck will pull this trailer with ease.........BUT, was thinking of upgrading the trailer to something a bit bigger........(can't even take a shower in the tiny shower-tub, fridge too small, etc) I snowbird alone from Mass. to Florida for two or three months in the winter and want to feel l can drive the long ride there and back each year comfortably........

My question is.........for highway driving, what would a very comfortable weight limit be in the new trailers I consider ?

I realize the truck will tow like 10,000 lbs, but, I am looking for a smooth ride on the major highways at 60-65mph, not 55 where u get honked at and run off the road.

[Auto4]

I use to own a tundra and loved it. I traded it in because of the cargo carrying capicity. I think mine was just under 1400 lbs.

With that in mind the limitations on your truck is the CCC and not the total weight of your trailer. I towed a 34 foot 8000 lbs travel trailer with around 900 pond of tongue weight. Although the truck had no problem with power I felt the trailer was pushing the truck around a little more then I liked.

Before that trailer I towed a 29 foot travel trailer that had about 700 pounds of tongue weight and felt the truck handled the weight much better.

If I were to do it over again with a half ton truck I would keep the trailer under 30 feet and the tongues weight in the 600 - 700 pound range.

[lotsip]

Originally Posted by Auto4

I use to own a tundra and loved it. I traded it in because of the cargo carrying capicity. I think mine was just under 1400 lbs.

With that in mind the limitations on your truck is the CCC and not the total weight of your trailer. I towed a 34 foot 8000 lbs travel trailer with around 900 pond of tongue weight. Although the truck had no problem with power I felt the trailer was pushing the truck around a little more then I liked.

Before that trailer I towed a 29 foot travel trailer that had about 700 pounds of tongue weight and felt the truck handled the weight much better.

If I were to do it over again with a half ton truck I would keep the trailer under 30 feet and the tongues weight in the 600 - 700 pound range.

Thanks, i travel alone, don't need a huge trailer with bunks and couches etc.........i was thinking 23-27', and keeping the dry wt under 6000.

[asquared]

As you seem to be figuring out, you need to know more about your trucks capabilities than just my truck can tow x lbs. (I learned this the hard way). Most TV are limited by their payload. To find out your TVs true towing capacities then you need to go weigh it. Load the tv up with all occupants, pets, and cargo that will be in it when towing plus a full tank of fuel and then go weigh it at a local scale (CAT Scale). Weigh each axle on a separate scale pad so it will give you a breakdown of front and rear axle weights individually and a total weight. Take the total weight and subtract it from your Trucks gvwr to get your available payload. Take the scaled Truck weight and subtract it from your Truck gcwr to get your adjusted towng capacity. Not owning the truck, you can look at the sticker inside the drivers door. It should say "occupants and cargo not to exceed x lbs". take the weight and subtract the weight of you, any passengers and pets plus any gear you plan to have in the truck when towing. The number left is a rough estimate of your available payload. You need a loaded tongue weight less than this number.

Now understand you will never tow an unloaded or dry trailer. Those numbers are somewhat irrelevant. You can either add the amount of weight of cargo you will tow to the dry weight (this is heavier than you think as most add 1000-1500 lb of gear) or simply use the tt gvwr to do your calculations. (for your purposes do all weight calculations using TT gvwr). Next understand that the tt loaded tongue weight needs to be subtracted from your available payload. The loaded tongue weight is typically 13-15% of the loaded tt weight. The dry tongue weight doesn't even include propane or battery. Also anything placed in the trailer in front of the axles will add to your tongue weight. For your purposes 13-15% of the TT gvwr will be an easier calculation to figure out.

[Orion]

Don't worry they will be recommending a f-350 or larger pretty soon.

I tow about 8,000 pounds as well with about 1,100 pound tongue. Heavy yes, ideal no. Safe for me yes. When someone else starts paying the car payment I'll trade in. Until then the tundra stays for a while...

With the weights you are talking about you shouldn't have a problem at all. Be cognizant of your hitch weight, weight distribution, hitch setup, etc and you are fine in my book.

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[asquared]

Originally Posted by Orion

Don't worry they will be recommending a f-350 or larger pretty soon.

I tow about 8,000 pounds as well with about 1,100 pound tongue. Heavy yes, ideal no. Safe for me yes. When someone else starts paying the car payment I'll trade in. Until then the tundra stays for a while...

With the weights you are talking about you shouldn't have a problem at all. Be cognizant of your hitch weight, weight distribution, hitch setup, etc and you are fine in my book.

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No I think the tundra is a very capable 1/2 ton for what he wants to do. I do think he needs to be well educated on how to properly figure out what weight is safe for him.

[lotsip]

Thanks for all the informative replies guys.......I am reading and re-reading and learning !

[grayfox]

Originally Posted by lotsip

Thanks for all the informative replies guys.......I am reading and re-reading and learning !

FYI http://changingears.com/rv-sec-tow-vehicle-sizing.shtml


Hope this helps

[dcheatwood]

2008 Tundra Limited. 2010 Wildcat dry weight 8700#. 2013 Rockwood dry weight 7700#. Pin weights @1400 & 1200.
Speed was never an issue. Power was never an issue.
Load in the bed of the truck (pin weight) IS the issue.

[Orion]

Originally Posted by asquared

No I think the tundra is a very capable 1/2 ton for what he wants to do. I do think he needs to be well educated on how to properly figure out what weight is safe for him.

You're good, I wasn't replying because of your comment


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[acadianbob]

Originally Posted by lotsip

My question is.........for highway driving, what would a very comfortable weight limit be in the new trailers I consider ?

Given this statement, I would limit my trailer to 60 to 70 percent of the truck's capacity; especially if you are traveling any longer distances.

As other posts have pointed out, cargo capacity is your biggest constraint. And don't forget to subtract the weight of your family, pets, bed gear, and hitch from your cargo capacity. You also need to understand that trailer dry weights, as listed by the manufacturer, typically do not include battery, options, etc. Then there is the load that you put IN your trailer.

Honestly, I would limit to a trailer with 600 to 700 pound tongue weight and and 28 feet.

Don't be persuaded by those who overload their trucks and then encourage you to do the same.

[checca]

Love my 2010 Tundra

[JWHybrid2B]

I just upgraded from a 4Runner to a 2014 Tundra. I have a Shamrock 23IKSS and weigh 5,500lbs. I have no problems pulling my trailer. I have a 4pt WDH to balance my tongue weight to the front TV axles. Brochure says payload is 1500 minus passengers, cargo. Fuel.

[Tampajohn]

Tow with a Dodge Durango Hemi 4X4 Sp189. FR Surveyor and don't even know it is there. Trailer is 3000 lbs with WDH. We load pretty heavy especially since going to be in it for 6 months. MPG is not the best. 11 mpg. Hope this helps.

[HONDAMAN174]

Your biggest limit is fuel range! Pulling 7500 lbs and getting 8 mpg so about 200 miles per tank. Lighter trailer, little better mileage. Main thing is what you are comfortable with towing and what fits your needs ( and maybe a want or two!). And make sure you have LT tires!


2014 Stealth Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7 "Clifford"

[donanddona]

Chicago to Arizona 2x, Chicago to Texas 1x. Head winds can be a pain but I do agree with the "need a diesel for the rockies". Keep the dry weight, tow with no waters. Love my tundra...

[Hawksclaw]

Bought a new Rockwood 8289ws last Oct and was planning on pulling it with my 2008 Tundra. It was within weight but I figured about 3-400 lbs overweight on pin weight. I really wasn't comfortable pulling it with the Tundra. I put firestone airbags on it to keep it level which worked out good. But I'm planning trips that are going to include mountain driving. So started looking around and found a 2012 Ram Larimie mega cab 4x4 with 6.7 Cummins. Heated and cooled leather seats power moon roof pretty much loaded out. It had 34,000 on it and I picked it up for $42,000. And about $3400 more on trade then Chevrolet wanted to give me. Truck has built in exhaust brake, integrated brake controller. TV pulls Rockwood like it's not even there. Love pulling with RAM. And the first time I hit a real long down ramp let off the pedal and exhaust brake kicked in. Was down to about 10 mph before I had to use the brakes. A little painful getting the note as the tundra was paid for but feel much safer and more in control. My wife's statement; if I new we was going to have to buy a new truck I would have for a bigger 5th wheel lol. Pulling from Louisiana to disneyworld in June I averaged 11.5 mpg until I hit those rolling hills in Florida and dropped to 10.7. I set the cruise put in tow haul and stay in the rt lane. 60 mph is 1500 rpm. Chinese Bombs on Rockwood have a 65 mph max speed.

[dalaw10]

Hello all. I am currently deployed, but before I left, I upgraded to a '14 5.7 Limited CrewMax Tundra. I also bought a 14 Salem BKIS (8300 lbs unloaded, 900 TW). My trip home was decent which was about 45min away. The truck had plenty power as others stated, but I honestly felt the rear end was too light for the trailer. The trailer was beating the truck up with sway. I bought the trailer with the dealer installed WDH (cheap). I'm looking at upgrading to a Reese Straight-Line Distribution Hitch. Does anyone have any experience with this WDH with a similar setup? I'm looking at taking a family vacation when I return and I want a proper setup for the rig. Thank you in advance.

[HONDAMAN174]

Two things I would look at-

I know it's a new truck but I would upgrade the tires to LT or extra load and get rid of the "p" tires. When aired correctly your back end shouldn't wander as much.

Second, Toyota gas an TRD sway bar for the rear axle. Might try tgat too.


2014 Stealth Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7 "Clifford"

[dalaw10]

What are LT tires? I've never heard of those. Is it some kind of towing tires?