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Old 01-27-2014, 07:52 PM   #11
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Plus, the lawyer stickers on 1/2T's are load ratings on P tires which are totally useless and IMO dangerous with the sway when towing any tongue trailer or 5th wheel trailer except maybe a pop up.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:58 PM   #12
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you are very right. I don't care how much HP and how big the axles are in a half ton. Why would you want to tow a 10,000lb 5th wheel, with the crew cab of the truck loaded with family, on P tires and call that safe.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:01 PM   #13
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I won't laugh but I have worked in the oilfield for almost 17 years with 15 of those being with Halliburton. It's pretty much load and go for any oilfield company.These HD's will haul more than the lawyer stickers state for sure. We would turn them in at around 150K. The power train would outlast the body.
This new company I'm with now has a mix of the big three. Last I heard though we are done with Dodge though. Ours are not holding up to the abuse. It's sure nice though to able to work these pickups before purchasing one.
then you know EXACTLY what im talking about....they scoff at my near 10k lb trailer as a pop up....lol..

quite frankly i dont see how there is any truck left after they are done with them...

a friend who is in purchasing said the last order was 150 superdutys!!?? (they no longer use dodge either due to transmission issues)....im surprised any of them last...LOL
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:03 PM   #14
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you are very right. I don't care how much HP and how big the axles are in a half ton. Why would you want to tow a 10,000lb 5th wheel, with the crew cab of the truck loaded with family, on P tires and call that safe.
IMO, with P rated tires, you are just asking for a BIG problem keeping it out of a ditch or worse.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:05 PM   #15
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I grew up on a farm, three farms actually including my grandparents next door in the Allegheny foothills. I had a horse farm until I sold it in 1996. Sometimes I read these weight police blogs from city slickers saying you can't do this and you can't do that and can't help but snicker at some of them. You would be amazed at what farmers haul and tow with their pickups and tractors.... I guess my worst was towing a four horse trailer with four horses from Buffalo River on the Tn Alabama line to central Ohio with no rear brakes on the truck, using mostly trailer brakes for stopping late on a Sunday night with nothing open, no way to fix the brakes and no where to stall the horses so I could wait till the next day... Many times I pulled three hay wagons to the barn with an F250, probably pushing 30,000 lbs.. We also used the f250 many times to pull two hay rakes at a time raking hay while the tractors were busy...Of course this was pre 6.0. Those 7.3 diesels were work horses....
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:09 PM   #16
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...Sometimes I read these weight police blogs from city slickers saying you can't do this and you can't do that and can't help but snicker at some of them...
X2. Especially those saying you can't pull a 5er with a 1/2T. Shoot, I pulled a 24' Alumalite 5er with an 81 El Camino
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:19 PM   #17
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IMO, with P rated tires, you are just asking for a BIG problem keeping it out of a ditch or worse.
I certainly understand the benefits of LT tires over P tires. However, I've pulled my wildcat (@9300lbs) and now my rockwood (@8400lbs) for more than 20,000 miles on the original Michelin P275x65r18's LTX on my 2008 Tundra. Never been an issue. BUT, now at 47,000 miles I am ready for new tires and they will be LT with heavier load range. I'm anxious to see the difference if its as much as you've been telling me OC.
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I certainly understand the benefits of LT tires over P tires. However, I've pulled my wildcat (@9300lbs) and now my rockwood (@8400lbs) for more than 20,000 miles on the original Michelin P275x65r18's LTX on my 2008 Tundra. Never been an issue. BUT, now at 47,000 miles I am ready for new tires and they will be LT with heavier load range. I'm anxious to see the difference if its as much as you've been telling me OC.
that's one of the best P rated tires ever made, IMO. Most people don't read the specs of the tires when replacing them, just the price. Good you are upgrading, not down grading like most do.
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Great read...on my way now to find a Southwest Airlines jet to drag around town!
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You can pull the space shuttle (or anything heavy) with a bicycle if you gear it low enough. You just wont pull it at 55mph up grapevine hill.
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