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Old 04-30-2016, 07:52 PM   #1
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Finally got the toy hauler yesterday. Thanks to wondering around here for the last 4 1/2 months while it was being built, my first trip today was to the scales. I loaded some stuff plus the quad and a full load of fresh water (46 gal) and headed out.

Here's the stats: 2011 Ram 1500, 4x4, Outdoorsman., 5.7L Hemi, full tank of gas; GVWR: 6800. Max tow rating 9,950. Max GCWR 15,500. Using an EAZ-Lift Recurve R3 WDH. I ended up weighing 4 times, and made 1 adjustment to the hitch head before the final weigh.

Weigh 1; with torsion bars attached.
Steer: 3620
Drive: 3460
Trailer: 7280
Gross: 14360

Weigh 2; same as 1 except torsion bars detached and in bed of truck.
Steer: 3120
Drive: 4140
Trailer: 7040
Gross 14300

Weigh 3; truck alone, hitch still attached, bars in bed.
Steer: 3540
Drive: 2860
Trailer: n/a
Gross 6400

Weigh 4; adjusted hitch head, bars attached, final setup.
Steer: 3540
Drive: 3560
Trailer: 7220
Gross 14320

So if I did my homework correctly, the final weigh is good to go. Steer axle weight is matched to unhitched axle weight. Front and rear axle ratings is 3900lbs, I'm under both, I'm under GCWR. I know I'm tight on payload capacity, only have about 400lbs left. Tongue weight is 760lbs which is right at 12%.

So, how'd I do on my math? I never would have known to go to this extent prior to finding the site, so thanks all . Driving home from the scale, the truck felt a lot better than yesterday when I drove home from the dealer. I may be able to put off a new truck for just a bit longer, we'll see.

I'll put up another thread, probably tomorrow with pics of the new rig.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:20 PM   #2
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Tongue weight is 760lbs which is right at 12%.

Make that 860 for 12%. Fat fingers and the post won't allow me to edit.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:02 AM   #3
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You are over on payload. The final weigh gives a truck weight of 3540+3560= 7100 lbs truck weight. That puts you 300 lbs over on payload. You are under gcwr. What is your rear gawr rating?
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:18 AM   #4
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You are over on payload. The final weigh gives a truck weight of 3540+3560= 7100 lbs truckbm weight. That puts you 300 lbs over on payload. You are under gcwr. What is your rear gawr rating?
Both axles are rated at 3900lbs. Aaaah, I see my error. I didn't add the final weigh numbers to make the truck gvwr. I was going off the truck alone for payload.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:21 AM   #5
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You're almost over payload before you add anything to the truck. Your dry weight of truck is 6400lbs and gross is 6800. If these figures are correct you only have enough payload left to get groceries.


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Old 05-01-2016, 12:38 AM   #6
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You're almost over payload before you add anything to the truck. Your dry weight of truck is 6400lbs and gross is 6800. If these figures are correct you only have enough payload left to get groceries.


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Haha, I may have eaten too many groceries... But yes, the numbers are correct. Damn... Here I thought I was good to go. And I'm only 1 pay day away from having it paid off.
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:58 AM   #7
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Totally feel your pain gunner... I was in the same boat when I bought my TT... couldn't put the wife and kids in the truck when we went places, they had to drive separately. Then I upgraded to a diesel 3/4 ton and towing was so much better! 3 years later we upgraded to a 5er, and the TV had to change again... my advice, look real hard when getting a TV at what the future may hold... it's always ok to have too much truck now and let the camper grow. One last thought, if you are considering a 5er, go directly to a 3500. 2500 pickups don't have enough payload capacity.
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One last thought, if you are considering a 5er, go directly to a 3500. 2500 pickups don't have enough payload capacity.
Not necessarily true. A 2500/250 gasser can easily have more payload than a 3500/350 diesel. Towing capacity is another story.

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I guess I was assuming diesel to diesel...
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Something seems off to me. How can a Ram 1500 only have 400 lb payload capacity? That's you and your buddy and nothing in the bed. Doesn't add up unless you have some seriously heavy mods to the truck.


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