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Old 07-01-2016, 01:07 PM   #121
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Thank you! To me this is reason enough to go diesel. After having to find an exit that has a station you can fit in then struggle to fill but not block the other lanes, wait for the little fiat that blocked you in while they were getting their 88oz slushy, etc. Just go to the truck stops & pull thru - Yep Im ready! I don't care how much the oil costs LOL
What guys don't say about the diesel trucks is it takes 12 qts of oil and not 5 like a gasser. Thus you can go a lot longer between oil changes.

If a guy is looking to save money, a diesel truck isn't a cheap purchase.

I say buy a Prius....but it won't tow anything.

Cheap to buy and own cant be used in the same sentence as power and torque.

That is.....unless you buy an old used diesel. Still not cheap to maintain.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:34 PM   #122
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What guys don't say about the diesel trucks is it takes 12 qts of oil and not 5 like a gasser. Thus you can go a lot longer between oil changes.

If a guy is looking to save money, a diesel truck isn't a cheap purchase.

I say buy a Prius....but it won't tow anything.

Cheap to buy and own cant be used in the same sentence as power and torque.

That is.....unless you buy an old used diesel. Still not cheap to maintain.
And a Prius will stop shorter than a Hemi...
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And a Prius will stop shorter than a Hemi...

Unless the Prius is in the bed of a 1 ton being used as a spare tire or has a tail wind.
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My 6.4 takes 15 quarts, so if I have the oil changed and fill the 250 with fuel I triple it's value....
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Unless the Prius is in the bed of a 1 ton being used as a spare tire or has a tail wind.
Now THAT is funny right there!!
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My 6.4 takes 15 quarts, so if I have the oil changed and fill the 250 with fuel I triple it's value....
lol... an oil change will total some of them
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For whatever it's worth. I just returned from a 2000 + mile trip from Central Florida to Baltimore and back, returning by way of the Outer Banks with the package you see below. The Eco Boost could not have done a better job and I averaged 12.2 mpg at 60 MPH. At one point coming down 95 I was averaging 13.3 miles per gallon for about a 200 mile stretch. And when I unhook I have a nice comfortable passenger car type vehicle to drive. They all have their ups and downs I guess.
I pulled a Layton 29' TT from Oklahoma to Vegas 2 years ago with my 2011 Eco Boost with no problems. 9MPG to Vegas and 11MPG return trip. My 36' Salem is a whole different animal.
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My 6.4 takes 15 quarts, so if I have the oil changed and fill the 250 with fuel I triple it's value....
lol....it's even better when you use synthetic!
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One thing I didn't find in this thread was discussion of the current cost per gallon of regular gas vs. diesel fuel. Currently diesel fuel in my area is from 2 to 15 cents per gallon CHEAPER than regular gas and it has been at least that much less for the 16 months since we bought our new Ram.

And, for those who doubt the diesel mileage figures discussed in this thread, I was a non-believer too until we got a calculated 23.4 MPG on the highway on our first non-towing trip in the new truck. This was for driving 1,000 miles on I-76 and I-80 between Denver and Chicago, with 107 miles on the odometer when we left our house. I never got that non-towing highway mileage in any of my previous gas-engined trucks.

We now have 17,000 miles on the Ram, about 2/3 of which was towing the 5th wheel through the mountains of the West (Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, California, and even the roller-coaster U.S. 50--the "Loneliest Road in America"--all the way across Nevada. And our average mileage while towing is now at 12.4 MPG.

And, incidentally, our 2015 Ram 2500 diesel cost a few hundred dollars LESS than the 2015 F-150 Eco-Boost long-bed 4x4 that we special-ordered from Ford with the Max-Tow and H-D Payload packages. We cancelled the Ford after we were told, 5 months after ordering, that it was going to take a year from ordering to delivery. We are now grateful that Ford couldn't deliver the F-150 in a reasonable time because we love the Ram!
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Per one question above. I not only can use the truck lanes, I have to. 22 foot truck and 40 foot fiver....I won't fit in any if the 'new' perpendicular auto gas lanes, not without backing out somehow. So I get in line with the semi's.

I do have to go inside first (often a long way) and give my credit card and a max *technically a minimum* before they'll turn the pump on. If I'm pretty empty I just say "$75" (at today's prices), and if I pump less, they credit the card the difference. I've only seen one "big boy" station that allowed private credit card automatic use.

What ticks me off is that those stations charge a premium to charge diesel vs. Cash.
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