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Old 06-28-2016, 04:12 PM   #21
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The Ram is as noisy as a Pea Thrasher ? When was the last time you drove one ? I have a 2012 3500 CC Limited and you can't even hear the Cummins running when towing or just around town. Their all good diesels I wouldn't own another Ford Diesel though. Cummins is the only way to go, Chevy and Ford have V8 diesels and they still can't produce the torque that the Inline 6 Cummins can.
Drove my buddy's new one last week.

Sound is not from driving them. It's from standing next to them as they drive by.

Glad you like yours. They are all nice.

Torque is enough in mine. Don't need more torque. One of 'em has to be the most.......but the specs are quite similar in all 3 of 'em. If a GMC will do the job, and mine will, that's what I'll drive. I can afford them!
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Old 06-28-2016, 04:18 PM   #22
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Can't be happier with my diesel. Never drove one before I got it. Very happy with the 400+ hp and the 900 lbs of torque. Easily made it over the sierras last month.
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Old 06-28-2016, 04:38 PM   #23
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I got 13.2mpg towing with my 1999 F250 SD with 7.3 this past weekend. Wouldn't trade it for 2 brand new gassers.
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I went the other way, after listening to the diesel crowd I went and bought a 2005 Duramax 2500 crew longbed 4x4. We had at the time a big lance slide in camper and pulled a 24' pontoon boat. The power was great and all but otherwise the truck was useless. I remember it go stuck in the flat church parking lot in hard pack snow! It never got the mileage I see diesel guys claiming and I tried to get it, I really tried. Top of that diesel at the time was $.70 more per gallon so it was costing me more per mile then my 1996 454 3500 that was the old choice (and a $3000 truck otherwise). Both trucks are gone along with the slide in and boat, and now we just have a 2008 Hemi and a 6000 pound Palamino. The problem with both those other trucks is they were so heavy duty they sat all year and got maybe 2000 miles on them because they were only good for towing. My Hemi is my daily driver and it does great both towing and the other 80% of the time just living day to day. Maybe I give up some MPG towing but the Hemi gets much better then the duramax did not towing, and I don't tow enough miles. The worst thing was seeing that $20,000 Duramax just sit there month after month, the Hemi only was $10,000 used and like I said, I use it every day. Oh, and it's in an Aspen so it seats 8, or 5 and dogs and stuff.

I did the math and at 2000 miles a year towing best case a diesel saves $200 a year in gas at current prices (that is going with the 15mpg claims I see other make but I never even approached towing). Maybe if we towed more or if prices change a bunch I will re-evaluate, but that doesn't even cover the license plate fee of having the extra truck as like I said, it doesn't work for the rest of life so you need something else.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:18 PM   #27
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I think you have the wrong tires on your diesel.
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Wish I had a Ram body with a Cummins 6.7 tied to an Allison transmission with a Ford interior. Thats what I want.:-)
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:29 PM   #29
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Wish I had a Ram body with a Cummins 6.7 tied to an Allison transmission with a Ford interior. Thats what I want.:-)

Ew... The Ford interior???
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I'm a newby who has just made my very first short trip pulling my 35 foot Rockwood 8310 with my 5.7 Tundra that has a tow package. I had no problems whatsoever, but then it was basically a flat terrain. It would have pulled it fine in drive, up the rather gentle hills but I would slip the shift handle sideways into 4th on the hills, just to keep the RPM up and experience no strain. That said, obviously, from all of the other inputs on this thread, I will probably need a diesel if I travel in any serious terrain. But here is my question.....one responder advocates a one-ton 3500. I've done a bit of research on the Rams, in case I opt for a diesel and the 3/4 ton 2500 and the one ton 3500 TOW about the same max load. The big difference seems to be the big difference in the LOAD that the two will carry. Aren't we basically concerned with "towing" vs "hauling"? If so, what is the advantage of opting for a 3500?
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The Cummins is an awesome engine to bad it's wrapped up in a dodge .
Have to agree with this. I've only owned one Chrysler product - a Plymouth Voyager minivan. It was a very poorly built vehicle. I hope the RAM trucks are built a lot better than that minivan. I know that was a long time ago but I can't see myself ever buying another Dodge vehicle after that experience.
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I'm a newby who has just made my very first short trip pulling my 35 foot Rockwood 8310 with my 5.7 Tundra that has a tow package. I had no problems whatsoever, but then it was basically a flat terrain. It would have pulled it fine in drive, up the rather gentle hills but I would slip the shift handle sideways into 4th on the hills, just to keep the RPM up and experience no strain. That said, obviously, from all of the other inputs on this thread, I will probably need a diesel if I travel in any serious terrain. But here is my question.....one responder advocates a one-ton 3500. I've done a bit of research on the Rams, in case I opt for a diesel and the 3/4 ton 2500 and the one ton 3500 TOW about the same max load. The big difference seems to be the big difference in the LOAD that the two will carry. Aren't we basically concerned with "towing" vs "hauling"? If so, what is the advantage of opting for a 3500?
Your tundra can pull almost anything however as the trailer weight goes up so does the tongue weight and the heavier truck is better for that. I don't think there is a a real need for a F350 over a F250 for most folks. I pull heavy stock trailers at times so I need the added load.
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I'm a newby who has just made my very first short trip pulling my 35 foot Rockwood 8310 with my 5.7 Tundra that has a tow package. I had no problems whatsoever, but then it was basically a flat terrain. It would have pulled it fine in drive, up the rather gentle hills but I would slip the shift handle sideways into 4th on the hills, just to keep the RPM up and experience no strain. That said, obviously, from all of the other inputs on this thread, I will probably need a diesel if I travel in any serious terrain. But here is my question.....one responder advocates a one-ton 3500. I've done a bit of research on the Rams, in case I opt for a diesel and the 3/4 ton 2500 and the one ton 3500 TOW about the same max load. The big difference seems to be the big difference in the LOAD that the two will carry. Aren't we basically concerned with "towing" vs "hauling"? If so, what is the advantage of opting for a 3500?
It isn't 'hauling' per se. In a Fifth Wheel, there is a load on the axles......same as a load of firewood or concrete blocks or whatever. Figure approx 20% of weight of loaded trailer for kingpin weight. Add weight of cargo, passengers, fuel, etc.

The truck has to be able to handle that load (hauling, payload, Cargo Capacity, whatever you call it) before the towing capacity even matters. You can tow the space shuttle on flat ground, slowly. The issue is safety, ease of use, capacity on the suspension and tires, and braking.

Get past the payload issue safely..........then you can discuss how much it'll tow. But IMHO I have yet to see a truck that has sufficient Payload Capacity for X trailer, and then fail to have enough towing capacity for that trailer.
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We just purchased a 2500 Ram, 2016, with air ride. (O'brien Auto in Indianapolis gave us a great deal!) Quiet and easy ride that eats up the Interstate and bumpy roads equally well. While we purchased this truck specifically for the truck camper, we've been a diesel family for years. My husband is a contractor, and is often pulling this trailer or that piece of equipment, and his 2006 Dodge Ram is often the truck that ends up doing what the others can't.

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Love my diesel . Often find myself passing semi`s @ 80 mph uphill @ 2500 rpm`s pulling the 30WR . Passing is a pleasure pull out behind a semi @ 55 and your up to 80 by the time you pull back in .
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After pulling the Rockies on I 70 west yesterday I surrender. The gasser white flag is waving. Haha!
Sure I did it. Sure I kept it at 45 to 55 but it was taxing on the gasser. 5000-5500 rpms the whole way. Just not really a confortable tow on those kind of grades for extended periods of time. Lost momentum once when I got trapped behind a slow moving big rig. That was not fun in any way.
Trading in the gasser as soon as I can and upgrading to the Diesel F350 (or maybe even a Ram 3500 or GMC Denali 3500).

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I prefer a Cummins , not to say the others are not very good engines , l just like inline six's there is a simplicity in design. A longer stroke and great low end grunt because of it.
Also two less cylinders and all the accompanying parts that go with them.
Go online and look at the size of the pistons and wrist pins a great engine bar none ! With a hundred thousand mile drive train warrenty. If you decide on a Ram get the Aisen tranny a $2,500 option but worth it.
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I prefer a Cummins , not to say the others are not very good engines , l just like inline six's there is a simplicity in design. A longer stroke and great low end grunt because of it.
Also two less cylinders and all the accompanying parts that go with them.
Go online and look at the size of the pistons and wrist pins a great engine bar none ! With a hundred thousand mile drive train warrenty. If you decide on a Ram get the Aisen tranny a $2,500 option but worth it.
Couldn`t of said it any better.
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Beware of the diesel cost is very high?

I like the power of the diesel but beware the cost of repair and maintenance is unreal 150.00 to change oil, 185.00 to change fuel filter and 4000.00 if you get some bad fuel and have to repair the injectors. I had the bid diesel never again. I will stick with the old gas hog ford.
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