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Old 06-28-2016, 07:30 PM   #41
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[QUOTE=53jimc;1242247]I have absolutely nothing against gassers. I really miss my 5.3 Silverado, it was a beautiful, great riding truck. It was that I couldn't stand the high rpms and it seemingly struggling all the time. I know that's normal, but it was a normal I didn't like. Towing mileage was 6 - 8 with the gasser. I'm getting 12 with the diesel.

I bought an '05 F250 6.0. Now, you have to really be careful about those. If I had my time over I think I would have gone with Chevy or GMC duramax. I have had a fair amount of trouble with my 6.0, but all that appears to be solved now and I know a LOT more about them. If you're interested I can send you some links about them. I put a few rebuilt injectors, a new oil cooler, new stand pipes and a bulletproof EGR cooler on mine, so far.



My father got stung with the Ford 6.0 L back in 2005 that stayed broken. The motor never ran right...ever!
I bought a Chevy 2500HD Duramax in 2013 and haven't had any problems. Love it. Installed a 50 Gallon transfer tank/toolbox and electric pump and filter under the bed. Max range towing is approx 1,100 miles towing and 1,600 bobtail. I couldn't ask for a better TV for my TT. Perfect.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:38 PM   #42
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I like the power of the diesel but beware the cost of repair and maintenance is unreal 150.00 to change oil, 185.00 to change fuel filter and 4000.00 if you get some bad fuel and have to repair the injectors. I had the bid diesel never again. I will stick with the old gas hog ford.

And 5 grand when your timing chain breaks...


Cmon.
Oil changes are half as frequent.
I just did my first oil and fuel filter change. At 15km.


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I like the power of the diesel but beware the cost of repair and maintenance is unreal 150.00 to change oil, 185.00 to change fuel filter and 4000.00 if you get some bad fuel and have to repair the injectors. I had the bid diesel never again. I will stick with the old gas hog ford.
WOW! I pay my Chevy dealer $79 for oil change and $55 for the fuel filter change. Haven't had any motor problems in 71,000 miles, but I'm sure it would cost more than a gasser. You get what you pay for. My Titan was a good truck, just couldn't handle the load.
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Tastes Great.

Less Filling.

Tastes Great.

Less Filling.

Tastes.........

oh never mind.
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ever hear anyone say, "I'm tired of all this power, lack of shifting, climbing hills at under 2500 RPM, and getting twice the MPG I used to get. I'm getting a gas truck"? You never will.
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What is this Diesel Owners Group?
LOL... I was joking... there is no D.O.G. !
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Just my .02, we have all 3 in our "fleet" at work. And I have to say this, there is something about the dodge 3500 that makes me uncomfortable when I drive them with no load. They seem super stiff. It's like riding a rock with flat tires. The gmc and fords don't feel that way to me. So unless you have a tv only for your tt, one might drive the perspective tv " unloaded" and see how it feels.


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ever hear anyone say, "I'm tired of all this power, lack of shifting, climbing hills at under 2500 RPM, and getting twice the MPG I used to get. I'm getting a gas truck"? You never will.


Amen brother. I live in the Rockies where a 7% grade is an easy one and 13% can happen once in a while in the back country. Nothing pulls like the modern diesels. I giggle every time I pass a semi on a grade.


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Since I have been towing with Ford Power Strokes since 1995, I'm going to agree with everyone that says diesel is the way to go. The power sure is nice, but if you are going anywhere near any mountains, the combination of the engine brake and tow haul mode makes it worth having. Another thing I like is having the weight of a Super Duty so the TT doesn't push the TV around.

Now with that being said, I am disappointed with the fuel mileage I get with my 2015 F350. I have read lots of posts where people are getting 18-20 mpg unloaded and 15 towing, I am not getting anywhere near these numbers. On a 5,000 mile trip last year (TT gross weight ~9,500 lbs.), I consistently got 10 mpg on the interstates running 65mph and 12 mpg on secondary roads at 55 mph. In mountainous areas it might drop .5 mpg. I get 15 when not towing. With over 12,000 miles on the truck now, it is still the same. I have accepted the fact that it is what it is and I still would not give it up for a gasser. To steal from a saying by Peter Parker's uncle Ben - With great power comes great fuel usage.

I can't comment on the Ram or GM trucks, but for the Ford Super Duty trucks, if you get the short bed, you only get a 26 gallon fuel tank. Based on my fuel usage, I would have been forced to find fuel every 200 miles whether I wanted to or not. I spent the $1,000 on a 50 gallon replacement tank and am happy with it.
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LOL... I was joking... there is no D.O.G. !
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What says you have to run 5000-5500 rpm and 45mph uphill? I limit my Silverado to 3500 max. Those behind me can pass, follow or take another road.
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I have absolutely nothing against gassers. I really miss my 5.3 Silverado, it was a beautiful, great riding truck. It was that I couldn't stand the high rpms and it seemingly struggling all the time. I know that's normal, but it was a normal I didn't like. Towing mileage was 6 - 8 with the gasser. I'm getting 12 with the diesel.

I bought an '05 F250 6.0. Now, you have to really be careful about those. If I had my time over I think I would have gone with Chevy or GMC duramax. I have had a fair amount of trouble with my 6.0, but all that appears to be solved now and I know a LOT more about them. If you're interested I can send you some links about them. I put a few rebuilt injectors, a new oil cooler, new stand pipes and a bulletproof EGR cooler on mine, so far.



My father got stung with the Ford 6.0 L back in 2005 that stayed broken. The motor never ran right...ever!
I bought a Chevy 2500HD Duramax in 2013 and haven't had any problems. Love it. Installed a 50 Gallon transfer tank/toolbox and electric pump and filter under the bed. Max range towing is approx 1,100 miles towing and 1,600 bobtail. I couldn't ask for a better TV for my TT. Perfect.
Thanks for the offer Mike. But whatever I buy it'll be brand spanking new and most likely a dually as well. Hell if I'm going diesel...it's go big or go home for me.

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Tastes Great.

Less Filling.

Tastes Great.

Less Filling.

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oh never mind.
LOL...best reply EVER! ;-)

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Just my .02, we have all 3 in our "fleet" at work. And I have to say this, there is something about the dodge 3500 that makes me uncomfortable when I drive them with no load. They seem super stiff. It's like riding a rock with flat tires. The gmc and fords don't feel that way to me. So unless you have a tv only for your tt, one might drive the perspective tv " unloaded" and see how it feels.


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Thanks for advice. I've thought about this a lot. I will have to drive them all unloaded and can't see a way to get to drive them with my 5er in tow. Man if dealers had a 5er hitch already installed in the beds of some trucks (that come with the factory prep) that would super cool.

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Amen brother. I live in the Rockies where a 7% grade is an easy one and 13% can happen once in a while in the back country. Nothing pulls like the modern diesels. I giggle every time I pass a semi on a grade.


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Oh I was passing the semis too...in 2nd gear screaming at 5000-5500 RPMs. Not cool in any way. Sure I know the gasser is supposed to do that but damn...uncomfortable is an understatement.

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I've owned and driven them all since 1976. Every one a 4x4. it was always a Dodge with the 5.7 until the 3.5 EB arrived from Ford. Dodge is still the most comfortable riding half ton but with the least payload. The Cummins is a great motor but in a 1 ton the most uncomfortable ride of all. GM has a very good drive line and ride in the 1 ton. GM can be purchased a couple thousand less than a F350 but suffers a little more than saved in this area at resale or trade time. In other areas that is not always true. A few hundred more an F350 buys a lot more payload than an F250. Since2012 the 6.7 cannot be beat in my opinion which is worth the amount you paid for it. An F350 is my daily driver ~ about 55,000 annually and 20 will be towing a 5er. I generally trade at around 90,000.
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What says you have to run 5000-5500 rpm and 45mph uphill? I limit my Silverado to 3500 max. Those behind me can pass, follow or take another road.
Ford does in order to get max HP and Torque. Something that is needed to move almost 18 thousand pounds around comfortably. And I'm not sure how heavy you haul OC, but that not enough feeling on these long stretches of 7% or more just isn't right. Something about it just feels unsafe.

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Thanks for the offer Mike. But whatever I buy it'll be brand spanking new and most likely a dually as well. Hell if I'm going diesel...it's go big or go home for me.

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I like your thinking, unfortunately the DW said no to a dually. . I tried.
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Well not for the F's........(Fords and Fiats).....

But we sure do have one:

Chevy and GMC Duramax Diesel Forum
Ahh... gotcha... if we are talking Internet forums, there are some great ones out there for us "straight" 6 men.

http://www.cumminsforum.com

My favorite personally is:
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