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Old 07-03-2013, 12:44 AM   #11
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Haha I knew I was gonna get asked. There is an app out there call the chive. More focused on the younger group of people. But what KCCO stands for is Keep Calm and Chive On. But his case I would say keep calm and camp on. I guess all I'm really trying to say is just check everything and be careful. I'm sure he is probably ok with his set up.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:02 AM   #12
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CZN, just how much does your Ram sink when you drop your camper on it?
I have a very similar fifth, and I also drive a Ram 1500 for my everyday truck. I cannot imagine putting them together. Maybe I am just chicken?
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My uncle (in the UK) towed an 18' "coach-built" (pronounced "heavy") TT for a good 20 years. They went all over Europe with it. His first TV was an Austin A55 Cambridge sedan - 4-cylinder 1.5L engine that maybe put down 50 hp on a good day. After about 6 years he upgraded to a Ford Cortina (2.0L, 70 hp) then to a "big" Austin with a 2.6L 6-cylinder engine.

US tow ratings are ridiculous. My '02 Kia Sedona (3.5L, 5-speed automatic) is rated to tow up to 3500 pounds. The identical car in Europe is rated at 3000 Kg. What are the vehicle manufacturers scared of? Are US drivers so clueless or is it the insurance companies that have them buffaloed?
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Are U.S drivers clueless? I would suspect a lot are judging by what I read on forums and see in CG's. Also isn't there a 55mph speed limit over there when towing? People tow 60-70mph over here. Would you want some goofball 1st timer towing 6,000lbs with a Kia Sedona running 65-70mph?
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CZNEDY; I'm probably in the same camp as you. I read the posts too, but I try not to let my inadequacies bother me. I am certain to have a underrated tow vehicle for my fiver. I take the utmost in driving care , take er slow and easy and arrive alive. You can have the biggest truck available and still experience the dangers of the highway. I would love to have a bigger truck, but I'm maxxed out. In other words, I don't have the funds to support that truck at this point. My Dodge Ram (Timbrens installed) squats about 1 1/2 " in the rear and 1/2" in front. Just this past weekend, a fellow camper with a F350 was hooking up to leave late in the evening. I was sitting by my campfire with his truck lights glaring in my eyes. When he hooked his fiver to the truck, the lights pointed skyward. Not sure thats a measure of a truck's capability, but it was mentioned in this thread. A hundred pounds, here or there, is not as big a deal someone driving a big rig and not able to handle it. I fear that more. I've said it before and I'll say it again, some drivers shouldn't be driving a Corolla, let alone a F350 with a 15,000lb trailer in tow. Scarey.
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Are U.S drivers clueless? I would suspect a lot are judging by what I read on forums and see in CG's. Also isn't there a 55mph speed limit over there when towing? People tow 60-70mph over here. Would you want some goofball 1st timer towing 6,000lbs with a Kia Sedona running 65-70mph?
We have more than our fair share of goofballs with 1t, 1-1/2t and bigger truck towing 70-80mph here that think just because they have a BIG truck that doesn't violate a lawyer sticker that they can tow as fast as they want regardless of the tire limits and swear they are safer. Get real.
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In the days before the internet "Weight Police" I towed a Rockwood popup (GVWR of 2200#) for years (and it was always pretty much fully loaded) - with an '81 Plymouth K-car, which I recall had a 2000# tow limit. Towed that thing all over the place - to Florida (Disney World), up into Virginia & NC mountains (it struggled), and this with a wife, two kids, and all the stuff we could stuff in the trunk. Had no auxiliary braking, no transmission cooler, and no WDH or booster springs/shocks. Yep, she squatted low to the ground, but being ignorant, I plowed on ahead.

Never had a problem with either the car or the camper!

Just goes to show that exceeding design limits does not ALWAYS result in tragedy! (Of course, I wouldn't want to be the one who bought that car after I traded). In '84, bought a TT and a van to pull it with after my business began to take off, and had all the necessary stuff! I shutter to recall how I was pushing the lints
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Are U.S drivers clueless? I would suspect a lot are judging by what I read on forums and see in CG's. Also isn't there a 55mph speed limit over there when towing? People tow 60-70mph over here. Would you want some goofball 1st timer towing 6,000lbs with a Kia Sedona running 65-70mph?
Speed limit can vary from state to state. Here in California we do have a 55mph speed limit when towing.
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Speed limit can vary from state to state. Here in California we do have a 55mph speed limit when towing.
And if you think everyone abides by it, go down around LA and try to run the legal speed limit whether towing or not and you will be the cause of the largest traffic jam in the world.
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The biggest problem with the weight police... is that someone may chime in about weight when nobody asked them to. Nobody goes and ridicules them for using a dually to tow a tent trailer, so the same crowd needs to learn to bite their tongues when they see a pickup at its max. Sure, mock a guy that fits a 5th wheel hitch to the trunk lid of a K car and then hauls a 12000 pound mammoth... but when it's apparent that common sense is still in play, it's best left alone.
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