I think we will be surprised by many of the numbers - I know I was when I looked at the max capacity on my receiver then when looking at after market ones finding the majority of the replacement at 500 / 5000 for a 3/4 ton
Are you sure that those numbers aren't for weight bearing...weight distributing numbers would be higher, more like 1200/12000.
Trailer:
Make: Palomino/Sabre
Model: 36QBOK (early 2013 model year)
Length: 42' 11"
GVW (Spec sheet): 15,825
UVW (Yellow sticker): 11,239
Rolling weight (if you know): 13,800 (scaled); 14,000 (estimated)
Pin Weight (actual or 15-25% of the GTW): 2,300
TV
Model: 2012 Ram DRW
GVW (door sticker): 12,300
Curb weight Payload (gross weight - no passengers or cargo): 4,297
Rolling payload with family: 3,100
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TV
Make: Ford
Model: F150 Crew Cab Ecoboost with Max Tow
GVW (door sticker): 7650
Curb weight: 5741
Payload: 1769
Receiver: Factory 2 inch
Hitch type & capacity: Class 4 11300
Sway Control Equalizer 12000lbs
This is me ready to pull out to Branson. While I am under on everything else I am over on GVWR (which suprizes me). The only solution is to take weight off the truck and get rid of it or transfer it to the very back of the trailer, where I have 250 lbs of capacity on my factory platform.
One thing is to put my spare back on the back of the trailer and get it out of the truck bed, and maybe carry the generator in the trailer.
HOW CAN YOU BE UNDER ON EVERYTHING BUT THE GVWR, it makes no sense???
Trailer: 5th wheel
Make: VCross 275VRL
Length 30
GVW (Spec sheet)9.5K
UVW (Yellow sticker) 7.9K
Rolling weight (if you know) 9.2
Pin Weight (actual or 15-25% of the GTW) 2200lbs
TV
Model 2500HD dmax
GVW (door sticker) 9200
Curb weight: 7440
Hitch type & capacity: superglide 16k
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Report
TV Weight W/ Trailer Attached: 9660
TV Weight: 7440
Trailer Kingpin Weight: 2220
Trailer Gross Weight: 9280
TV & Trailer Combined Weight: 16720
Vertical Load (Kingpin): 24%
Safety Margin VS. Overload
TV Front Axle Weight: -470
TV Rear Axle Weight: -624
TV Gross Weight (GVW): 460
TV Combined Weight (GCW): -5280
Hitch Tow (GTW): -8720
Vertical Load (Kingpin): -2280
Trailer Gross Weight (GVW): -670
That's a very common story for 2500 series truck pulling fifth wheels- the payload capacity is usually the thing that limits you the most (not nearly as bad as 1/2-ton and smaller trucks, but it's still there).
I'd venture a very uneducated and non-scientific guess that most 3/4-ton trucks pulling fifth wheels are at or very close to GVWR. But, they're under all of their other specs and many make the choice that its acceptable to them.
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Yeah that sounds good as my biggest concern is the axles and tires. It's towing flat and steady and WAY under the GCWR. So stopping should not be a problem.. The camper is under its rating also. I'm a little suprized also about the 2200 pin weight on a 9200 lb camper. Maybe FR should have put the axles a little bit further forward? That would help with a lot of things.
That's a 24% pin weight which is directly in line with the "standard" of 20-25%. Mine is as low as 16% but I also have dual slides at the very rear. I think mine is more of an anomaly than normal (though I know Herk has reported similar numbers).
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Okey then. My superglide doesn't help as it weighs a lot. My spare must weight 60 or more lbs and if I take it out of the truck and put on the bumper hanger that it was on that would change things by 100 lbs. The back of my camper is pretty light. And all the xtra weight is toward the front in the storage compartment.
I can see some mods coming.. Maybe a diamond plate box on the back platform with generator and stuff in it
Trailer: TT
Make: Grey Wolf
Model: 26BH
Length: overall 29' 5"
GVW (Spec sheet) 7450
UVW (Yellow sticker) 4970
Rolling weight (if you know): haven't scaled in a while
Tongue weight (actual or 10 to 15% GTW): 690lbs
or Pin Weight (actual or 15-25% of the GTW)
TV: 2004 Ford
Model: F150 super cab FX4
GVW (door sticker):7200
Curb weight: 5580
Payload
(gross weight - no passengers or cargo): 1620 with full tank of gas
Receiver
Hitch type & capacity: stock Ford unit, 500/5000---1050/10500
Sway Control: Andersen WD hitch, built in way control
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TT-2013 Passport 3220BH
TV-2004 F150 FX4, not exactly stock...
nights camped:
with 2001 Kodiak K215: 2010-10, 2011-12
with 2012 Grey Wolf 26BH: 2012-19, 2013-24, 2014-11, 2015-6
with 2013 Passport: 2015-13, 2016-15 booked
Well, we weighed on the way to Cape May.
To say I was shocked (again) is an understatement.
I loaded as if we were traveling to Goshen for our 2 month trek just to be sure we are still good to go. We are not and when I can scan the tickets I will walk you through the work up I did. I will re do everything after we get back and find "the culprit."
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2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
2019 Flagstaff 8529FL
Well, we weighed on the way to Cape May.
To say I was shocked (again) is an understatement.
I loaded as if we were traveling to Goshen for our 2 month trek just to be sure we are still good to go. We are not and when I can scan the tickets I will walk you through the work up I did. I will re do everything after we get back and find "the culprit."
Trailer:
Make: Salem
Model: T25S
Length: overall 28' 10"
GVW (Spec sheet) 7700 lbs
UVW (Yellow sticker) 5400lbs
Rolling weight (if you know) 6100lbs
Tongue weight (actual or 10 to 15% GTW) 800lbs ish (need to update)
or Pin Weight (actual or 15-25% of the GTW)
TV
Model: Tundra
GVW (door sticker) 6900lbs
Curb weight: 5450 lbs. (with me and fuel)
Payload: 1400 lbs
(gross weight - no passengers or cargo)
Receiver: Stock Toyota with tow package
Hitch type & capacity: Class IV 500/5k (1k/10k with WDH) Husky round bar
Sway Control : friction bar (single)
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'07 Toyota Tundra 5.7L DC 4x2
'16 Surveyor 226RBDS
Nights camped 2016 - 3
Nights camped in 2015 - 20
Here are my tickets and the workups for my very first one in November 2009 and how the camper has "grown" since. All workups were with the camper packed for Florida (2 month trip or more in both hot and cold weather)
Needless to say, we are going on a diet before Goshen. 4 cases of "adult beverages" will be the first to be paired down. Tool and spares box will get looked at again. The 10,000 pound tow chains are also "outa there."
There are a few mods to be done that will add about 100 pounds to the structure and I will re-weigh and do another work up before our July trip.
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Lou & Freya the wonder dog
2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
2019 Flagstaff 8529FL
TT: Surveyor SV-264 (29 ft.)
Weight - unhitched from truck, sitting on scale with leveler hitch, 5,921#
TV: 2011 Ford F-150 Supercab with 5.0 engine, 6-spd tranny, 3.55 axle ratio.
This is nothing special and the F-150 does fine at 65 mph, which is what the tires are rated for anyway... Trailer weight is loaded for a typical 5-day fishing trip to Beaver's Bend in S. E. Oklahoma. I don't buy groceries until we get there and never run with loaded tanks. Just some bedding, clothes, a few toiletries, towels, chairs, Astroturf mats, and the outdoor grille that hangs on the side.
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2016 Jayco White Hawk 28DSBH TT
2014 Ram 2500 Crew Cab 4X4 6.7L Cummins