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Old 01-11-2019, 07:28 AM   #41
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I did not know you can get a f 150 with air brakes and setup with a air line for trailers?


Yes I put my pancake mini compressor in the bed of my pickup. Then hooked the single air hose to the red brake line on the trailer. This will release the trailer brakes , as for the blue line I'm sure I dont need it. They always go to extreme about safety and that blue line is only for a secondary precaution. I know I read this somewhere. [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:41 AM   #42
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I don’t know what these dealers are thinking, a F250 gas doesn’t have a 13500 posted towing capacity, but a F150 does, anything to sell a truck
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:36 AM   #43
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I don’t know what these dealers are thinking, a F250 gas doesn’t have a 13500 posted towing capacity, but a F150 does, anything to sell a truck
I think you need to check your facts:

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content...DtyPU_May4.pdf
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:17 PM   #44
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Brother had same issue with 2018 F150 and 30ft open range TT. Hensley hitched solved sway problems... dramatically.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:40 PM   #45
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The problem with the Hensly is its a big heavy hitch. Since most half tons have payload issues, this doesn't help that problem.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:52 PM   #46
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Assuming the op have the HDPP, I would suggest making sure the front of the truck is back to the same high it had when empty after engaging the WD and that the trailer is level.
I tow a 34' 11" (hitch to bumper) - 9000 GVWR camper with an F150 and don't have sway problems.
I do have HDPP...
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:37 PM   #47
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The problem with the Hensly is its a big heavy hitch. Since most half tons have payload issues, this doesn't help that problem.


I can tell you with confidence that IT IS NOT a problem!
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:26 PM   #48
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Not specially your shorter, lighter trailer. But with longer, heavier trailers and half tons, the Hensly would put me over my payload.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:30 PM   #49
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The majority of the problem is not the weight. The F150 can handle the payload. Put that weight on a 16 foot lowboy trailer and it will scream and handle surprisingly well . PERIOD. The problem is the lengths. With the short bed and shorter cab of a light supercrew F150 you already have a major disadvantage compared to a superduty. With the 30 foot long trailer the sideways pull of the trailer simply has too much leverage over the low mass, short wheelbase and much narrower leaf spring f150 vs a superduty (or any 3/4 ton+) . You may monkey with it to make it better but it will never be safe enough for my family to ride in. Like trying to pull a duck with a June bug. The only success I have seen in similar situations on longish trailers behind f150 is if the trailer is a fifth wheel but then it’s easy to have problems squatting the truck.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:39 AM   #50
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The problem with the Hensly is its a big heavy hitch. Since most half tons have payload issues, this doesn't help that problem.
Actually it might. A trailer is a combination of type 1 and type 2 levers. The type 2 lever physics is what is important here. You need to figure out where the center point of trailer net weight that is forward of the axles is located. That defines the length of the load arm. A Hensley hitch increases the length of the effort arm. In all class 2 levers, the longer the effort arm, the lower the actual amount of effort is needed to lift the load. So if the center of the load moves sufficiently less than the extension of the effort arm, the actual tongue weight may be lower.
There are posts out there of folks who have weighed their tongue weight with a conventional hitch and then with a Hensley design who reported decreased tongue weights exceeding 100 lbs. Recognize that Hensley's extend the effort arm by about 2 feet.

Fe = (Fl * dl) / de

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Fe = Lever Effort Force
Fl = Load Force
dl = Distance From Load Force to Fulcrum (trailer axle)
de = Distance From Effort Force to Fulcrum

So an theoretical example. 6300lb trailer with 10% TW. So 3300 load force 6 feet from the trailer axle and end of tongue is at 12 feet. (3300*6)/12. This is a 1650lb tongue weight.
Using a Hensley - add 100 lbs for the hitch. Assume it moves the center point of the load 1/2 foot forward and assume actual weight transfer point is now at 14 feet. (3400*6.5)/14. This calculates to a tongue weight of 1601 lbs. The remaining 149 lbs is carried by the trailers wheels.

A couple of other things to consider. On a conventional hitch the weight transfer point is the ball location. On a Hensley design, weight transfer is inside the TV receiver. The hitch bar on a Hensley/ProPride hitch is, for all intents and purposes, a rigid extension of the trailer. There is no flex where a conventional hitch sits on the ball. So the dynamics of TV front wheel unloading are also different. The TW on a conventional hitch is carried farther aft of the TV rear axle.
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Inspect the tires and INSURE you are running the proper air pressure AS PER the door jam!

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Before replacing your tires air them up to the Maximum Manuafcturers recommendations. Usually 43 to 44 psi for most P Series tires. If handling improves by Truck LT Tires. I did this and the F 150 settles down a lot and handled my Rockwood 1900 lbs of pin weight.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:54 AM   #52
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Everyone is always quick to blame the TV but you also need t address the trailer. Does it have cheap ties, are they inflated correctly? Good tires on a TT can help a lot. Is the TT suspension ok and aligned. I have heard of new TT with bad alignment from factory although rare. Even the alignment on the TV can affect this with these EPS systems now. My wifes car was mis aligned from factory 200 miles on it and almost impossible to keep in lane. You would have thought I was drunk.
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:14 AM   #53
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Yes I put my pancake mini compressor in the bed of my pickup. Then hooked the single air hose to the red brake line on the trailer. This will release the trailer brakes , as for the blue line I'm sure I dont need it. They always go to extreme about safety and that blue line is only for a secondary precaution. I know I read this somewhere. [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]
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Old 01-12-2019, 02:25 PM   #54
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Tow capacity

I was gonna give my two cents worth here as well lol i had a Fleetwood tl 29 up until last year and had pulled it wit a 2014 f150 and a 2018 f150 but my wife decided since the grandkids were starting to ho with us more and growing mor3 as well we needed a bigger camper so we went shopping and came home with forest river fleetwood 36 footer 3 slides dry weight 8700 lbs now granted my f150 pulled it engine was the 5.0 still had the "rating" to pull this trailer even loaded according to dealer so we take off on a trip to pigeon forge tn form western nc bout 100 miles upp the mountain did good pulling cant complain but like you sway was bad i stopped a few times and tried a few tricks even went up one link on my weight dist chains didnt help so when i got back from that trip i went to the dealership and traded my 150 that i loved for a f250 gasser and have towed a couple times since and have no problems the f150s just dont have enough weight to offset the weight of the tt so that being said the idea of towing anything much over 5k is really not feasible with a half ton truck with the exception of a few smaller fifth wheels but thats a whole new ballgame fifth wheels tow completly different and i am talking from experience i am a truck driver / mechanic by trade
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Old 01-12-2019, 04:02 PM   #55
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Depends on the F150. A Screw with the 6.5" bed and 7650 GVWR will tow 7,000lbs @30' all day without issues with the right WDH. Don't expect to to with a 1/2 ton in the medium heavy range with out some kind of built in friction sway control WDH
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You didn't mention what kind of hitch you are using. A load equalizer hitch and sway dampener can make a huge difference in handling compared to a straight hookup.
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