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Old 09-04-2016, 05:11 PM   #1
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Hello everyone. Im looking in to getting Wilwood X-lite 254RLXL. I drive a 2004 Chevy Suburban Z71. Its gonna be just my wife and I and 2 small dogs. The suburban says it can tow a max of 8,200 lbs. but help me with my math please.
Suburban GVWR is 7,200 lbs.
suburban curb weight is 5,546lbs.
which leaves me 1,654lbs payload

Wilwood 254RLXL GVWR 7,000lbs fyi it says tbd but jayco has a jayflight 245rlsw similar floor plan and has a gvwr of 7,000 lbs.
So lets say i have a tongue weight of 13 % of 7,000 lbs GVWR of the trailer. that leaves me with a tongue weight of 910 lbs.
1,654 lbs payload
- 910 lbs tongue weight.
= 744 lbs left of payload for my wife and I and pets and gear.


so after all of this does this seem that my suburban will be able to tow this without an issue??? keep in mind i will have a WD hitch as well. brake controller and all of that good stuff. i cant see me hauling 744 lbs of gear in the Suburban because most of the gear will be in the trailer. please let me know thanks!!
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Old 09-04-2016, 06:59 PM   #2
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If you can post he two sticker on your door jam, that would help members provide more help....
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Old 09-04-2016, 07:02 PM   #3
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If you can post he two sticker on your door jam, that would help members provide more help....
Correct.
The sticker will account for vehicle options.
Your math is assuming your have a base model Burb.
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Just looking here, it says dry weight is 5635 lbs and cargo weight is 2033 lbs for a total GVWR of 7668 lbs. So you're a little low.

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FR website also says UVW (dry wt) is 5635 lbs and cargo wt is 2033 lbs. It also says the tongue weight is 668 lbs. Battery, propane, other stuff you put in the TT and your WDH will increase the tongue wt.

Also, your second pic shows your Suburban's payload is 1393, not 1654 lbs.

I'm thinking you won't be happy.
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According to your sticker you actually only have 1393 lbs payload before passengers, pets etc.
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With a tt dry weight of 5635 you will likely be 6600-7100 lbs loaded (based on average amount people tend to add to campers). This means you are looking at a low tongue weight of 858 to a high of 1065 lbs. I think that is going to be really tight. I would be concerned about handling any hills with that setup.
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Hello everyone. Im looking in to getting Wilwood X-lite 254RLXL. I drive a 2004 Chevy Suburban Z71. Its gonna be just my wife and I and 2 small dogs. The suburban says it can tow a max of 8,200 lbs. but help me with my math please.
Suburban GVWR is 7,200 lbs.
suburban curb weight is 5,546lbs.
which leaves me 1,654lbs payload

Wilwood 254RLXL GVWR 7,000lbs fyi it says tbd but jayco has a jayflight 245rlsw similar floor plan and has a gvwr of 7,000 lbs.
So lets say i have a tongue weight of 13 % of 7,000 lbs GVWR of the trailer. that leaves me with a tongue weight of 910 lbs.
1,654 lbs payload
- 910 lbs tongue weight.
= 744 lbs left of payload for my wife and I and pets and gear.


so after all of this does this seem that my suburban will be able to tow this without an issue??? keep in mind i will have a WD hitch as well. brake controller and all of that good stuff. i cant see me hauling 744 lbs of gear in the Suburban because most of the gear will be in the trailer. please let me know thanks!!
I have the same truck as you just a year older. I think your tow rating is more like 7100-7400. The only way you get over 8000 lbs. is with a 410 axle ratio. I thought all Z71s came with the 373s.

You are right to be looking at payload though and you will have to scale the truck to see what your actual weight is. My 2003 Z71 scaled 6000 lbs with me behind the wheel (200lbs) and 3/4 tank of fuel. That left me with 1200 lbs of additional payload for additional people, hitch, luggage and tongue weight. Keep in mind that your W/D hitch will transfer some weight back to your trailer axles which helps some (maybe 100-150 lbs).

After readjusting my hitch my suburban towed my 6600+ GVW trailer fine in terms of handling and control. I did add air bags and LT tires. The limiting factor is power. I think you will tow the 7000 lbs fine on flat land, but you will struggle in the mountains.
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thanks for your help guys see i was confused because the sticker said a lower weight and i didnt know which one to use as payload. so i knew i was getting close to max payload. so u guys suggest a smaller travel then i assume. because i wanna be safe.
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thanks for your help guys see i was confused because the sticker said a lower weight and i didnt know which one to use as payload. so i knew i was getting close to max payload. so u guys suggest a smaller travel then i assume. because i wanna be safe.
When you are towing with your suburban I would recommend leaving the 3rd row seat at home: saves 70lbs and you can't tow with more than 4 or 5 people anyway due to payload limits. The third row out makes it easier to keep any luggage as far forward as possible to help with rear axle weight.
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