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Old 01-22-2016, 01:17 PM   #21
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2015 Forest River RV Wildcat Maxx 24RG
Hitch Weight: 663 lbs
Gross Weight: 10823 lbs
Dry Weight: 6176 lbs
Cargo Weight: 4647 lbs: 67 gals
Grey Water Capacity: 62 gals
Black Water Capacity: 31 gals

Am I missing something?
CGVWR=13,300 lbs
Minus Wildcat Gross Weight: 10,82
Truck and Passengers must weigh less than 2,477 lbs
10,823 (gross) - 6176 (dry) = 4647 lbs (options and cargo)

Nobody, and I mean nobody, puts that much options and cargo into a pull-behind trailer, unless it's some type of toy-hauler. If this person were choosing a vehicle not already purchase, the trailer GVWR could be used, in order to protect for an upgrade later. But since they already have the truck, it makes zero sense to use the GVWR, because it will never happen.

Regarding tow rating:
1000 lbs over dry is the typical estimate for a loaded travel trailer, and should be used here. Call the loaded trailer 7,200 lbs, leaving 800 lbs for people and cargo in the truck.

Regarding the truck's payload:
Not knowing the cargo configuration, protecting for 15% TW is wise. 7200 * 15% = 1080lbs (I'd recommend a 1200 lbs rated Equal-I-zer WDH, even if the TW came in under 1000 lbs, to prevent porpoising).
I don't see the truck's GVWR. Add 1080 to the truck's empty weight, and that will tell you how much is left over for people and cargo in the truck. The WDH should do it's job distribute the TW, and keep the rear axle loaded properly, but you should weight everything once loaded, just to be sure.

If you are the typical camping family that goes out a few times per year, then this should not be a problem (but run the actual numbers, please). If you plan to go long distances every year, and/or camp more than a few times, then you may be wanting for more truck. But again, I suspect you will find yourself within all ratings, once loaded to go.
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Old 01-22-2016, 01:32 PM   #22
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Should had gone with the ford with the 3.5 turbocharged it can tow 11000 lbs
I agree with this statement. If the question were, which Ford truck should I buy given this trailer. This "P552L" (F150 LD) is going to mean packing the truck and camper reasonably, compared to the "P552H" (F150 HD).

But the question is, can I tow this trailer, with this truck. I think the answer is "yes, with careful packing".
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Old 01-22-2016, 02:58 PM   #23
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Thank you

A big thank you to everyone who responded with helpful information. I belong to several forum sites on various topics and the quick replies and thoughtful advice here are very much appreciated. Of course every forum has those who troll and take pot shots at the situation but as a cop for the past 28 years, pot shots are the norm! I'm looking forward to learning more about the whole trailer world as I progress out of rookie-dom. I've decided to simply try the combo I currently have and see if it feels right. I'll let you know after this weekend, if anyone's interested. Going for the trailer on Sunday. A tech will be there for the walk-thru and hook up.

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Old 01-22-2016, 03:14 PM   #24
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I have to get to my Ford dealer and check out the 2.7 Eco boost,my 2011 3.5 Ecoboost doesn't have those figures.
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A big thank you to everyone who responded with helpful information. I belong to several forum sites on various topics and the quick replies and thoughtful advice here are very much appreciated. Of course every forum has those who troll and take pot shots at the situation but as a cop for the past 28 years, pot shots are the norm! I'm looking forward to learning more about the whole trailer world as I progress out of rookie-dom. I've decided to simply try the combo I currently have and see if it feels right. I'll let you know after this weekend, if anyone's interested. Going for the trailer on Sunday. A tech will be there for the walk-thru and hook up.

Thanks again.

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Old 01-22-2016, 04:56 PM   #26
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Todd,
As I mentioned, I recommend the 1200 lbs rated Equalizer WDH. But the general need for a WDH is not a recommendation, but a requirement for you. Your F150 owners manual (and the 2015 Ford Towing Guide) will clearly state that a WDH is required for TW greater than 500 lbs. You will have double that amount!

Any reputable dealer will not let you leave the lot without a WDH installed (or make you sign a waiver). If you have not specified which WDH you want, many dealer will slap on the cheapest WDH and a separate friction sway controller. These will be effective and do the job. But for only a small amount more, you can have something with integrated sway control that will do a better job at both tasks:
1. The 1000 lbs of TW, 5-6 feet behind the rear axle will mean roughly 1500 lbs applied downward to the rear axle, and roughly 500 lbs removed from the front axle. This means a loss of front wheel traction for stopping and turning. The WDH will re-distribute that ~500 lbs back onto the front wheels.
2. A properly loaded trailer, with 10-15% of trailer weight on the hitch ball, will not inherently sway. The integrated sway control on a good WDH will help stop/prevent sway in the case of a strong cross wind, passing semi, or your emergency lane change.

The Equil-i-zer brand, and the Reese/Drawtite "Dual-Cam" are widely considered the best bang-for-the-buck in these types of systems:
-You can spend less, but they will not perform as well, and will be more difficult to use.
-Or you could go with something with even better performance than these 2, but they would cost several times as much as these (several thousands, vs ~$600).
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:53 PM   #27
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Hi All. New to travel trailers. My fiancé and I just purchased a Wildcat Maxx 24RG travel trailer. Empty weight is listed at 6176#. I have a 2015 Ford F150 with a 2.7 ecoboost/trailer tow package/6900# payload package. Listed towing capacity is 8000#. The GCWR is 13,300#. I wasn't worried until I started talking to some people (who don't trailer) who tell me the truck may not be able to safely pull the trailer when loaded. Is there anyone out there with real world experience I can borrow??

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Hi there, neighbor! I live near Concord (in PH) and have had 6 travel trailers since 1988. I also have a Sherline tongue weight scale. If I can be of any assistance, such as weigh your trailer tongue with my scale, please PM me. I was a towing novice once too!

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Hi All. New to travel trailers. My fiancé and I just purchased a Wildcat Maxx 24RG travel trailer. Empty weight is listed at 6176#. I have a 2015 Ford F150 with a 2.7 ecoboost/trailer tow package/6900# payload package. Listed towing capacity is 8000#. The GCWR is 13,300#. I wasn't worried until I started talking to some people (who don't trailer) who tell me the truck may not be able to safely pull the trailer when loaded. Is there anyone out there with real world experience I can borrow??

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SuperSprings and a Sway Bar.

They'll put a sway bar on Focus but not on an F-150.

Go figure.

It still might be tight but you should be okay if you don't load up the whole house
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I have a 2011 ecoboost with max tow. I have been pulling a 35 ft fiver at 9800 lbs for 4 years and 30,000 km all over US. With no problems. We just ordered a 42 ft heritage glen at 10,600 lbs. I added air bags in the back of the truck for about $500 which took the towing from 11500 lbs to 13500 lbs. I also found out, 2 years in, that the stock tires are 4 ply only. I had been overloading my tires. I upgraded to 10 ply michilins. They are at 40 most of the year and then 70 lbs when I am towing. The ecoboost has never had a problem with power. I compared a neighbour how had a f250 desiel and he got 25.6 km/100 where I used 28.8km/100. I would have to tow over 100,000km to break even on the up-cost of the desiel Just my experience
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I have a 2011 ecoboost with max tow. I have been pulling a 35 ft fiver at 9800 lbs for 4 years and 30,000 km all over US. With no problems. We just ordered a 42 ft heritage glen at 10,600 lbs. I added air bags in the back of the truck for about $500 which took the towing from 11500 lbs to 13500 lbs. I also found out, 2 years in, that the stock tires are 4 ply only. I had been overloading my tires. I upgraded to 10 ply michilins. They are at 40 most of the year and then 70 lbs when I am towing. The ecoboost has never had a problem with power. I compared a neighbour how had a f250 desiel and he got 25.6 km/100 where I used 28.8km/100. I would have to tow over 100,000km to break even on the up-cost of the desiel Just my experience
you're passing incorrect info. air bags do NOT increase payload capacity or towing capacity.
not sure who told you that but they were WRONG.
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