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Old 03-29-2014, 09:39 PM   #11
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Check out YouTube backing semi trucks. same concept and it helped me when I first got my first fifth wheel

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Old 03-29-2014, 09:58 PM   #12
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So trailer tires have a completely different sidewall, Is that what you are saying at the end
Yes, different sidewall design and the way the tread block is bonded to the tire is meant to handle side scrubbing loads differently than a P or LT tire. Interestingly, if a trailer tire is used as a driving/steering tire then it's just as likely to fail as an LT tire on a tandem axle trailer, incorrect loads placed against the tire.

There's actually quite a bit of engineering that goes into a tire and it's intended use.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:51 PM   #13
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Something I do that has helped me as a newbie to backing a 5ver is to release the brakes on the camper. It seems to steer better. Try it next time.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:01 PM   #14
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Yes, different sidewall design and the way the tread block is bonded to the tire is meant to handle side scrubbing loads differently than a P or LT tire. Interestingly, if a trailer tire is used as a driving/steering tire then it's just as likely to fail as an LT tire on a tandem axle trailer, incorrect loads placed against the tire.

There's actually quite a bit of engineering that goes into a tire and it's intended use.
Yes a lot of engineering goes into the tire, but I would have to say that the majority of the tires life is rolling down the interstate, I would rather not have a "maypop" at 65 I will replace mine with lt's when it's time, good enough for my TV, good enough for my 5er.
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I am not sure what you mean by relase the brakes on the camper. But I did find that turning down my gain helped on certain types of ground. The biggest item I am still getting used to is that 1. due to the extra length, location of the pin to the truck and trucks turning radius that I need to pull about 5-8 feet further forward then I would with a tag of same total vehicle length. The turn starts a little slower, but you have WAY more manuverability with a 5th wheel.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:16 PM   #16
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Towing a 5'er is much easier than a TT. Backing up a 5'er takes a little more practice since the reaction time is delayed more with a 5'er. You need to start reversing your direction sooner.
Virtually no sway with a 5'er.
Only minor draw back is that a 5'er wants to cut turns sharper so you need to be mindful of curbs.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:19 PM   #17
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I am not sure what you mean by relase the brakes on the camper. But I did find that turning down my gain helped on certain types of ground. The biggest item I am still getting used to is that 1. due to the extra length, location of the pin to the truck and trucks turning radius that I need to pull about 5-8 feet further forward then I would with a tag of same total vehicle length. The turn starts a little slower, but you have WAY more manuverability with a 5th wheel.
They mean just what you're doing with gain, disabling the trailer brakes.

What I do and many others do, we usually get out to eyeball our sites before backing in, right? As I walk back to my truck I unplug the trailer. That takes my trailer brakes out of the equation. I don't feel the trailer brakes hamper my backing in, but they sure are annoying.

So I see the site is fine, I unplug the trailer connector, back her on in there.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:50 PM   #18
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That's correct. Many people switch to LT tires because they are trying to get away from the "China bombs", which is understandable. However, ST tires do have sidewalls that are designed to handle the loads put on them in trailer service.
I moved from ST tires back to the specs of my 5er that calls for 14 ply LT tires. I found some from Goodyear that was made for trailer use and was steal belted not the bias ply that blew out on me going down the road.

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Old 04-10-2014, 11:53 PM   #19
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It will turn PDQ so short turns of the steering wheel are mandatory and everything will be backwards to what you are used to doing.
Whether you have a TT or a 5er, backing is the same, regarding the direction the wheel is turned.
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We went from a 21' TT to a 40' 5er. Towing and backing are easier - though more caution is needed. I have a Super glide hitch by Pullrite. I can make 90 deg backing turns with my short bed truck.
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