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Old 05-06-2014, 03:31 PM   #31
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Here you go. Skip ahead to :45.
Heh, beat me to it. That was the video that I thought of immediately.
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Old 05-06-2014, 04:06 PM   #32
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Here you go. Skip ahead to :45.



Could it happen? Sure. Is it guaranteed to happen? Nope, video above shows that the dually didn't help a bit, the hitch took all it could and came uncoupled.

Leave the guy be. He's good with it, go camping and call me in the morning.
That was the exact video that came to mind.
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You can kick a police officer square in the nuts, but that doesn't necessarily mean you should.
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Old 05-06-2014, 04:23 PM   #34
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Depends on why that officer is within range.

Here's the deal, he's 415 pounds under towing capacity according to dry weight.

Will he end up a few hundred pounds over? Most likely. Will the world end? Most likely not. Is it optimal? Probably not, but if he's happy with it who cares?

I'm much more worried by WHO is driving than WHAT they're driving. It's level, really close to specifications. Trust me, there's much worse to worry about.

Unless it's just fun to rile the guy up I don't know what the big deal is.
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According to the wt police, everyone should have at least a 1T dually to pull a pop up and a Peterbilt or Mack for any 5er.
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According to the wt police, everyone should have at least a 1T dually to pull a pop up and a Peterbilt or Mack for any 5er.
Bull.
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According to the wt police, everyone should have at least a 1T dually to pull a pop up and a Peterbilt or Mack for any 5er.
Why haven't you put that 5er hitch in the El Camino?

Just messin with ya!!

His rig does look level and much better than alot of 3/4 and 1 ton trucks I have seen driving down the road.

It really does have more to do with the driver than anything!!

Go camping and have a good time!!
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Why haven't you put that 5er hitch in the El Camino?
I did at one time, but sold the Camino in 2000.
Do wish I still had it or the 72.
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To the OP...

I'd love to run the numbers on your combination. I shared my numbers with the group here when I purchased my current HTT. The overall conclusion was my 1/2 ton van would pull my new HTT but it would leave me slightly over a couple of ratings. That conversation here led me to purchase a different TV. I didnt want to be slightly over a couple ratings (RAWR, GVWR/TV) and at the max on others (GCWR).

I have taken my new TV & HTT to the scales a handful of times last summer. I learned a lot. It helped me fix a few things by telling me where all of my weight was and where it should go when loading. I reach my GVWR fast on my TV. Thats the downside to towing with a conversion van even if its a 3/4 ton.

I have tried to share what I know (not that much) with a man I work with and he didnt want that much information. He told me he looked at one number and one number only. The towing capacity. I asked him about the RAWR, GCWR, GVWR-TV? He said he's good on the tow capacity and thats all that matters to him. I let it go at that. I did get some more info about his TT and TV and was able to figure out that his 2004 Envoy has a GCWR of 10,000lbs and he will have a GCWR (minimum) of 13,000lbs. That's crazy to me and there is no way he cant feel that. But then he wanted a really big TT and didnt want to replace his TV.

I would encourage you to get to the scales and run all of those numbers for yourself. Not for others here but for you. The numbers will help tell you what you are feeling when you are towing. I decided that I wanted to know! I realized if I was hiding from the numbers I shouldnt be towing with my setup so I have weighed her up more than once. After doing so I can hit the road with confidence. Thats been worth every minute spent at the scales.

I also can honestly tell others "here" that ALL my numbers are good! My numbers really are good too but depending on my load they come close to some limits and thats exactly what I feel when I am towing. It's not just a number its my reality when towing. In the flat areas of MN it feels pretty good. But out west its not so easy and frankly I dont like that. I'd like some more power when pulling up those mountains and around home. I've got a 3/4 ton diesel pickup on my wish list.

So I'd encourage you to go to the scales and dig into those numbers. Do this for you. Nobody else. Figure out what your GCWR, RAWR, GVWR (TV and TT)? You'll learn a lot. I did. I dont have any regret learning what I have learned. It's taking a look at the reality of whats happening. Its knowledge. Its all good! Best wishes to you.
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