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Old 08-22-2016, 05:25 PM   #21
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Gasser Toyota Tundra short block is $6k. long block is $18k with Tow package!

Safer to buy new with warranty IMO but a lot enjoy the vehicle that is perfectly fine to replace or rebuild as needed. Scary to have to put out 11k for repairs - I could not afford that.
Boy them toys are sure expensive . i could get a new 6.0 in my chevy for a third of that $18K .
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:17 PM   #22
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I don't know what the LMM thing is... model distinction?.... I don't know...
But what I do know is that the OP wanted opinions... I gave him mine.
The three letters are the engine code....

LB7 - Year 2001 - mid 2004
LLY - mid 2004 - 2005
LBZ - mid 2005 - 2007 (classic body style)
LMM - 2007 (new body style) - 2011
LML - 2011 - present

Your 2003 is a LB7 Duramax
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:11 AM   #23
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The three letters are the engine code....

LB7 - Year 2001 - mid 2004
LLY - mid 2004 - 2005
LBZ - mid 2005 - 2007 (classic body style)
LMM - 2007 (new body style) - 2011
LML - 2011 - present

Your 2003 is a LB7 Duramax
Then the LB7 is not as bad as the LLY, LBZ,LMM, and LML....(which are all crap)
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:29 AM   #24
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Then the LB7 is not as bad as the LLY, LBZ,LMM, and LML....(which are all crap)
That's funny. Most diesel enthusiasts think the LB7 is one of the more risky to buy due to the rash of bad injectors😁
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I'm not going to keep beating a dead horse...
They are all bad.... and we've had many issues with every one of them...
We just never had a major failure with the 03'...

I wish the OP the best of luck with his truck... as I do everyone else...
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They are all bad.... and we've had many issues with every one of them... ...
I realize you don't like Duramax and that is fine, but I find it odd that you kept buying them and still own one
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:06 PM   #27
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I'm not going to keep beating a dead horse...
They are all bad.... and we've had many issues with every one of them...
We just never had a major failure with the 03'...

I wish the OP the best of luck with his truck... as I do everyone else...
THE 03 had injectors problems it was very common to have to replace them with less then 100,000 miles and not cheap either . the rest all seem to have good reviews . none as bad as the ford 6.0 and the dodge transmissions are crap
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I guess I've been lucky with my LBZ piece of crap. No major problems! I did just get a new headliner.
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I was surprised to see that much money for sure. waranty is the only way for the big diesel IMO.
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:14 AM   #30
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I was surprised to see that much money for sure. waranty is the only way for the big diesel IMO.
That was one guys extreme story about his unusually high cost of diesel ownership in a fleet environment. There are more of us in the forum that have had no costs other than regular maintenance. I did buy an extended warranty but never used it for anything diesel related. My truck is 10 years old. 6 years without a payment buys a lot of maintenance and savings in the bank for the next one if this one ever wears out
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:35 PM   #31
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I guess I've been lucky with my LBZ piece of crap. No major problems! I did just get a new headliner.
why would you out a new headliner in such a pos . just sale it and move on
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That was one guys extreme story about his unusually high cost of diesel ownership in a fleet environment. There are more of us in the forum that have had no costs other than regular maintenance. I did buy an extended warranty but never used it for anything diesel related. My truck is 10 years old. 6 years without a payment buys a lot of maintenance and savings in the bank for the next one if this one ever wears out
Yea I was thinking "no payments" a little easier in the years to come.

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That was one guys extreme story about his unusually high cost of diesel ownership in a fleet environment. There are more of us in the forum that have had no costs other than regular maintenance. I did buy an extended warranty but never used it for anything diesel related. My truck is 10 years old. 6 years without a payment buys a lot of maintenance and savings in the bank for the next one if this one ever wears out
I agree. I've owned duramax's for over 8 years. Last one was 10 years old when i sold it last year. I put a water pump, a wheel seal, a hub on each front and 1 upper control arm. It had 134,000 miles when i sold it last year for high nada retail.
The 7.3 powerstroke i had for a little bit before the duramax, it had just about everything replaced on the front end, hubs, ball joints, tie rods......when i sold it at 135k.

That guy must have been getting bad fuel, running crappy filters like k&n, lack of maintenance or something.
I worked for gm dealers for years until i went prive last year. All vehicles can have problems, but the gm first gen of duramax was the most problematic with the internal injectors, other than that for the most part the 6.6 has been awsome.
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I had a LBZ that I bought wit 120k on it. I traded it with 200k to prepare for the new 5er. I loved the truck and would never have thought about getting rid of it if I didn't need a bit more truck. I did the headliner, one glow plug and a fuel filter rebuild kit. If I could have found a decent deal on a 3500 LBZ, I'd have bought that.
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I currently have a 2007 CCSB Classic LBZ that I purchased brand new. It's got a 104,000 rounds on it and so far I've only replaced the 2 front wheel bearings and the idler pulley. The only other thing that needed to be replaced were the leaky trans lines and that was under warranty.


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130K on my daily driver 2006 LBZ. Had 3 glow plugs go bad over the years. Replaced 2 as they burnt out and on the 3rd I went ahead and changed the rest. Easy fix.

Replaced the front wheel assemblies around 75K, common problem. Did one when I got home from work, and replaced the other the next night. Another easy fix.

Tranny lines are seeping fluid (another common problem) since 50K. Not dripping fluid on ground so I'm going to let it roll. They make aftermarket repair kit for the lines.

At 100K I changed all fluids to synthetic except engine. Changed my transfer case fluid to 5w-30 synthetic engine oil and did the overfill method. Takes 3 qrts instead of 2.

Installed EGR blocker plate around 20K, no more exhaust going into engine.

New headliner 2 weeks ago.

I treat the truck well with scheduled maintenance I do myself and the truck has treated me well.

It's the first brand new truck I bought, took both kids home from the delivery room, has taken my family on many vacations. The truck has high sentimental value to me and has help produce many great memories. If it ever gets totaled, I might cry!
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