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Old 02-14-2016, 07:44 PM   #11
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Wdh will transfer some of the tongue weight from the rear axle to the front axle and done weight back to the trailer. Honestly by the time you add in the weight of the wdh and bars, you will still have about the same amount so I would just account for the whole amount of loaded tongue weight to be safe. One thi g to remember is the brochure payload won't be your SUV payload. Check the door sticker on any vehicle before purchasing. I've been there done that mistake and ended up with a new truck for the next trailer upgrade. It is very good that you are trying to understand this before purchasing.

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Old 02-14-2016, 07:57 PM   #12
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My advice would be to find a used 3/4t burb. I pulled my old 28bh with an 04 1/2 burb, 4pt wdh with sway control and hated pulling in any side wind. Truck was simply too light. Switched to a 3/4t pickup and it was night and day difference. The 1/2t was capable of pulling fine, but I was much more comfortable hauling my family and camper with the heavier truck.

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Old 02-14-2016, 07:58 PM   #13
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They did make 2500 Yukon XLs in '13 with the truck 6.0L and around 9200lb tow. Wife's '14 Denali XL has a 7800lb tow rating, but has the 400hp 6.2L. Not sure what the cargo capacity is though. Will check it out later. Came with all towing capabilities and brake controller, but no hitch. Go figure. We don't tow with it anyway.

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Old 02-14-2016, 08:06 PM   #14
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A suburban with lowest gears available or an Expedition EL with the Ecoboost and heavy duty tow package and a ProPride hitch would work beautifully. Skip the models with all of the bells and whistles and get the more "humble" version for highest payload possible. Load everything that isn't 100% required to be in the TV into the TT so that you're only "carrying" 10-15% of that on the TV. My .02.
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:32 PM   #15
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WDH won't help increase payload capacity.
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:48 PM   #16
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LOVE my '06 Suburban 2500 8.1! Plan on keeping it for years. Searched hard in 2010 to find a nice one.

I'm not saying you need a 2500, but I've learned the extra capacity is very comforting. Have fun!
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:10 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by adr4 View Post
Hello Everyone,
Large SUV Ratings Avg (Examples: QX80, Armada, Navigator, Tahoe, Yukon)
Curb Weight = 5600
Payload Capacity = 1700
GVWR = 7300
Towing Capacity = 8500
Class IV Weight Dist. Hitch & Sway Control = 10k Rate & Tongue 1k

2 Adults & 2 Children + Luggage = 500

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Dry Weight = 6068
Cargo Weight = 1709
*Tongue Weight = ? (Need to be 10 to 15% of GVWR of Trailer?)
Estimate Cargo/Camper Equipment = 500

Can you provide good or bad experience by towing with Large SUVs?

How does a Weight Distribution Hitch affect Tongue Weight? I read a few things but still confused. I need this number to make sure Payload capacity isn't exceeded.

Thanks in advance!
I have an 09 Suburban now, had an 05 one before. They are full size SUVs, but the ones in your list are not. The Yukon and Tahoe are the smaller versions of the Suburban, same engine etc., but the extra 16-18" length in the Suburban and Yukon XL make a huge difference in ride and towing.

That being said, my trailer is 24 ft. coupler to bumper and 5500 lbs. loaded. I would never consider towing a larger trailer with the Suburban. Even as it is, large hills are a chore, running at 3500 RPM to get enough power to climb a hill is tiring and gives me 5 MPG. The frontal wind load due to the trailer slows me down a lot when it gets windy or even at highway speeds since the 5.3L V8 does not have the power to overcome it. On moderate roads its not a problem but anything hilly is not any fun.

My payload is 1500 lbs. so at 800 lbs. tongue weight and 100 lbs. for the hitch I have 600 lbs. left for cargo. I think your estimate of 500 lbs. is low. Most of the time its just my wife and I travelling, but I'm still very close the RGAWR rating which is another consideration. Its not just about towing capacity and cargo capacity there are weight limits on axles and overall weight. The transmission cooler alone changed my towing capacity from 5400 lbs. to 8000 lbs.
The WDH only distributes the weight to stop the front end of the TV from lifting, it does not add towing or cargo capacity.

A 2500 version of the Suburban/Yukon XL would be nice, or a diesel version if GM has one in the works.
I'm likely going to downsize the trailer or get a Silverado, just to get back to having fun camping like I did when I towed a pop-up for 10 years.

FWIW that's my experience with the large SUV over 10 years.

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WDH won't help increase payload capacity.

Who said it would?
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Old 02-15-2016, 11:36 AM   #19
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Thank you everyone for the continued feedback! There has been some really hopeful items provided. Trans Cooler modification! and the etrailer article, thanks asquared! Couple of notes to add...

I will definitely increase my estimate of 500 to at least 650 for people and things in the TV, and I also like the tip to place items in the TT to accommodate for payload restrictions of the TV. I absolutely need a Large SUV and not Full sized because of length and fitting it my garage.

Finally, agreed that WDH does not increase payload, simply my question was does is affect Tongue Weight. It seems the consensus is that it really doesn't and I should continue to estimate of 10-15% of the trailer weight. Right now I am at 6k Dry and with about 1k cargo, I am thinking GVW of TT will be around 7K, which should be estimated at 700 to 1000 lbs tongue weight. I am planning to have a friend help me take the TV to weight station to make sure this is all correct before purchasing the SUV. Sound logical?
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Old 02-15-2016, 11:47 AM   #20
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Sounds like you are right on track. Look for a tire leading door sticker to say at least 1600-1800 lbs for your needs. That will help eliminate extra weighs for you.

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