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Old 03-06-2014, 04:57 PM   #1
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Load assist options.

Purchasing a 5th wheel with a 2,300 dry hitch weight and need to add air bags or helper springs. Wondering about what works best. Also anyone using "roadmaster active suspension" units.

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Old 03-06-2014, 05:57 PM   #4
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Air bags are the easiest solution...Firestone, Air Lift 5000...your choice. Adjust the air pressure to level when loaded and deflate to 5 psi when not needed.

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I have the RAS on my Excursion. They work for me. No need to inflate/deflate but the bags are a good choice too. I don't think you'll get a consensus for which one is better...Kinda like Ford vs. Chevy
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RAS is not for load leveling, they are designed to stop axle wrap, a condition where your leaf springs essentially buckle under lateral load (think taking off from a stop). They will offer some help, but not much.

Air bags are a good low cost choice that do not alter your unloaded ride, but you do have to be conscience about airing them up when needed (unless you go with an on board compressor).

Helper springs require nothing from you, but will change the unloaded ride, likely making it harsher.

Timbrens (or similar products) are sort of in the middle. They are only "active" when you have a load, but they are not adjustable like air bags.

At the end of the day, everyone is going to like each one differently. I have never had a need for any of them, but with my new trailer, I suspect that will change. For me, I am planning to go with the Timbrens. I just like the fact they don't change the unloaded ride, and I don't have to think about them once they are installed.
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RAS is not for load leveling, they are designed to stop axle wrap, a condition where your leaf springs essentially buckle under lateral load (think taking off from a stop). They will offer some help, but not much.

Air bags are a good low cost choice that do not alter your unloaded ride, but you do have to be conscience about airing them up when needed (unless you go with an on board compressor).

Helper springs require nothing from you, but will change the unloaded ride, likely making it harsher.

Timbrens (or similar products) are sort of in the middle. They are only "active" when you have a load, but they are not adjustable like air bags.

At the end of the day, everyone is going to like each one differently. I have never had a need for any of them, but with my new trailer, I suspect that will change. For me, I am planning to go with the Timbrens. I just like the fact they don't change the unloaded ride, and I don't have to think about them once they are installed.
Thats why I have the RAS...the ride is unchanged when unloaded
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RAS site is very good at showing it's benefits. But the benefits seem to be helping put torque to the ground without upsetting the suspension. I don't see anything about the RAS system helping to cope with large pin weights. Perhaps this is a small side-benefit. But if it is, I would think Roadmaster would take credit for it somewhere on their site. They even have an RV section, but make no such claims.
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I added airlift bags to my Ram1500 to help with the load. I put about 50-60lbs in them when I get ready to haul. I did not add the compressor, just make a trip to the gas station. When I am not towing I reduce the bags to 10-15 lbs, so it's not to bouncy.
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I added airlift bags to my Ram1500 to help with the load. I put about 50-60lbs in them when I get ready to haul. I did not add the compressor, just make a trip to the gas station. When I am not towing I reduce the bags to 10-15 lbs, so it's not to bouncy.
Same here. Have them on our Ram 1500 as well.

Run them at 40 - 45 lbs with a load and usually around 10 - 20 lbs unloaded. Carry a portable 12v compressor in the truck so I can pump them up while on the road if required. Would like to have on board compressor installed someday.
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