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Old 04-24-2013, 11:24 AM   #1
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Hi Everyone,
I am new here and still trying to figure out everything within the forum but I will get right to why I am here. I have become very frustrated and looking for advice and I was on here about 2 weeks ago trying to solve my problems and came across a post that I thought was worth trying out but can not find the post again. (this is all new)

At any rate last year I purchased a 2008 Sandpiper 301bhd. I am having trouble pulling it. I come from an ag background and have pulled a lot of stuff in my day with pick ups and drive semi but have never been so white knuckled in my life as when I pull this new camper.

I am pulling this camper with a 2007 Dodge Cummins 2500 and the camper is throwing me all over the place. I am using a 4 point WDH by Equalizer but after reading a post from someone saying that you should be able to comfortable pull a trailer without it and add it for wind and meeting oncoming traffic I want to get to that point and he went on about weighing everything which I have done some of.

Let me know if anyone has this trouble or has some advice. I am to the point of a different camper or truck and really do not want to do that.

I thank you all for your time and any advice you may have for me.
Chad
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:35 AM   #2
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First of all welcome to the forums!

I moved your thread to an area where I think you will find better help... Towing, Tow Vehicles, Hitches & Toads - Forest River Forums

I bet that is where you were before where your read about someone's solution to a towing issue. The Welcome Forum was fine for your first post, but the specific issue will be addressed here.

I'll give your situation some thought, but hope others can help you, too.

Good luck!
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:48 AM   #3
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I was having trouble finding a way to even post and that is where I ended up. I appreciate the help and will learn how to navigate this just new to me. thank again
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No problem where you posted. Any forum can be a confusing thing for first timers and this one has more going on than many.

In review, you have a 3/4 ton truck pulling a trailer with a GVWR of 10,900lbs (I couldn't find any information with regards to the 2008 Sandpiper 301bhd, but this is the info for a 2008 Sandpiper 302bhd - see brochure P. 14). You are using an Equal-i-zer and you say that the trailer is "throwing you all over the place". I assume you mean in a tail-wagging-the-dog way.

Here are some questions:
  1. What is the weight of your loaded trailer?
  2. What is the tongue weight?
  3. What size bars are you using with the Equal-i-zer (1,000/10,000 or 1,200/12,000)
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Hi Everyone,
I am new here and still trying to figure out everything within the forum but I will get right to why I am here. I have become very frustrated and looking for advice and I was on here about 2 weeks ago trying to solve my problems and came across a post that I thought was worth trying out but can not find the post again. (this is all new)

At any rate last year I purchased a 2008 Sandpiper 301bhd. I am having trouble pulling it. I come from an ag background and have pulled a lot of stuff in my day with pick ups and drive semi but have never been so white knuckled in my life as when I pull this new camper.

I am pulling this camper with a 2007 Dodge Cummins 2500 and the camper is throwing me all over the place. I am using a 4 point WDH by Equalizer but after reading a post from someone saying that you should be able to comfortable pull a trailer without it and add it for wind and meeting oncoming traffic I want to get to that point and he went on about weighing everything which I have done some of.

Let me know if anyone has this trouble or has some advice. I am to the point of a different camper or truck and really do not want to do that.

I thank you all for your time and any advice you may have for me.
Chad
I took delivery of a new trailer a few weeks ago and it was longer and heavier than the one I traded in and I had a similar experience. I kept my Equil-i-zer hitch. I thought I could just "wing it" on the set up and adjustments but it just didn't work that way.

I'm not sure if that is your problem but I would start with the hitch set up. You should have an owners manual for your hitch, if you don't you can get one here: Equal-i-zer® Hitch - The “American Original” with 4-Point Sway Control™ and Weight Distribution

Read and reread the set up instructions, that's is what I did and finally went through the set up procedure exactly as described. It made all the difference in the world.

Find a level spot, do the measurements and adjustments and measure again. If it is not right make the correct adjustment and do it again. it took me a few cycles to get there and about an hour and a half.

My trailer pulls well now. Do I know its there? Sure but it "feels" right and sway is controlled.

I hope this helps. Don't give up. I did a lot of minor adjustments before I started from scratch and got it right.
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No problem where you posted. Any forum can be a confusing thing for first timers and this one has more going on than many.

In review, you have a 3/4 ton truck pulling a trailer with a GVWR of 10,900lbs (I couldn't find any information with regards to the 2008 Sandpiper 301bhd, but this is the info for a 2008 Sandpiper 302bhd - see brochure P. 14). You are using an Equal-i-zer and you say that the trailer is "throwing you all over the place". I assume you mean in a tail-wagging-the-dog way.

Here are some questions:
  1. What is the weight of your loaded trailer?
  2. What is the tongue weight?
  3. What size bars are you using with the Equal-i-zer (1,000/10,000 or 1,200/12,000)
Do this too. The information will feed into your set up
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:29 PM   #7
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You will probably want to ensure that your trailer is properly loaded to give you between 10-15% tongue weight. A light tongue can cause a tremendous amount of sway. Good luck, and keep us posted on your solution.

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Had a similar problem once. Fill the fresh water tank to at least 1/2 full. That puts weight on the TT axles to compensate for weight placed in the rear cargo bay (which takes weight off the tongue thus increasing sway).

Hope this helps; should make a significant difference for you. If it doesn't help, your hitch setup needs to be reconfigured.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:37 PM   #9
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Ok now I can't see what you asked but I will see if I can answer your question (still learning). Based off the weights I got last night my camper weighs 9400 pounds. I have not actually unhooked the camper to get a tongue weight but I did weigh the truck with the camper hooked up and WDH in place and came up with a weight of 1820 for hitch weight. If that sounds really high to you, me too. 8820 (truck on scale camper hooked up)-6980 (weight of the truck)=1820 with a remaining weight of 7560 with just the camper on the scale. The hitch was set up by the techs at the camper shop and I believe they know what they are doing and have it set up correct as they did play with it for awhile as I stood and watched. One thing I remember from a post I read before the guy said to measure the front end of the truck empty and with the camper hooked up and with the WDH I am within 40 pounds of each measurement.
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I have played with putting water in the tank with no result. They camper place also warned me about pulling it with water in it as the tank had dropped out of it when the previous owner was pulling it full of water. the bars are 1200 pound bars.
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