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Old 06-01-2016, 03:45 PM   #1
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looking to upgrade and real world informatio

I currently have a 2016 GMC 2500 CC Duramax with a payload of #2200 and can tow #14k at the fifth wheel and #13k at the bumper. I currently have a 32' Tracer TT, I'm looking to upgrade to a 5'er. I'm looking for some real work lite weight 5'ers out there that I can pull with my truck. I've seen the calc web site(s) and used some of them and some of them have my truck able to pulling more then what it can.

Any real word recommendations would be helpful
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Old 06-02-2016, 06:20 AM   #2
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a 14000 lb fifth wheel will have a pin weight around 2,800 lbs (assuming 20%, alot of 5ers will have 25% pin weights). This is well over your 2200 lbs of availible pin weight

This is exactly why i traded in my 3/4 ton. Wife wanted this 360IBL and I didn't have the payload capacity on the 3/4 ton...

2,200 lb pin weight at 20% would be an 11,000 lb 5er... and no capacity for the 200 lb hitch, wife, kids, grill and so on.
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That is a common problem with a 3/4 ton diesel is the low payloads. I traded my Diesel Chevy 2500HD with a 2475 CC for a Diesel F350 with a 3744 CC. .This is what Tow Planner gives you with just a 200 lbs driver and 250 lbs hitch and a camper loaded ready to camp.

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You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,750 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 7,000 - 8,750 lbs.
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That is a common problem with a 3/4 ton diesel is the low payloads. I traded my Diesel Chevy 2500HD with a 2475 CC for a Diesel F350 with a 3744 CC. .This is what Tow Planner gives you with just a 200 lbs driver and 250 lbs hitch and a camper loaded ready to camp.

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You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,750 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 7,000 - 8,750 lbs.
Yeah, I may wait for a year or so to trade in the 2500 for a 3500. I'm noticing the 5'ers are getting heavier and the new trucks are towing less these days
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Yeah, I may wait for a year or so to trade in the 2500 for a 3500. I'm noticing the 5'ers are getting heavier and the new trucks are towing less these days
That is one of the main reason I'm driving a Ford is the local Chevy dealer told me that I could tow any 5er out there and a 2500 and there wasn't any need for 3500.
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That is one of the main reason I'm driving a Ford is the local Chevy dealer told me that I could tow any 5er out there and a 2500 and there wasn't any need for 3500.
GM is using the new tow rating calculations, Ford is supposed to be using it shortly. The same truck I have now 2016 model, has a #17,4 at the fifth wheel tow rating for 2015 models.
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GM is using the new tow rating calculations, Ford is supposed to be using it shortly. The same truck I have now 2016 model, has a #17,4 at the fifth wheel tow rating for 2015 models.
I don't know about Chevy but Ford uses a 15% pin weights to figure what weight 5er they can tow. So at 15% my 15,900 tow capacity has a pin weight of 2385 lbs. But take that in real world numbers of 20% to 25% (probably between 22% and 23%) that is 3180lbs to 3975 lbs. My Crusader had at 24.1% pin weight but using dry weights it had a 19.8%, since most the storage is forward of the axle you have to allow for percentage creep when trying to stubby pencil weights.
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I have a GMC 2500 Duramax with a payload of 2254. I bought a nice, roomy and comfortable (just 2 of us) 5er with an empty pin weight of 1420 lbs . Their are units out there advertised as half ton towable that fully loaded won't exceed your payload. On our first trip loaded for five days I set the cruise control to 63 and rolled down I 40 at 1500 rpm.
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I have a GMC 2500 Duramax with a payload of 2254. I bought a nice, roomy and comfortable (just 2 of us) 5er with an empty pin weight of 1420 lbs . Their are units out there advertised as half ton towable that fully loaded won't exceed your payload. On our first trip loaded for five days I set the cruise control to 63 and rolled down I 40 at 1500 rpm.
What year is you GMC? What 5'er do you have?
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