Originally Posted by pacin
. . . a new properly equipped f150 will tow more than my 2009 f250 with the 5.4. A new 150 has about 3200# payload while mine is 2660#.
Yea, but try buying one of those 2015 H-D Payload F-150s. I ordered one on August 15, 2014, the first day 2015 pricing was available. After 3 delays and being told by the dealer in February that I would get it in August 2015, I cancelled my order. My point is that those payload numbers are fiction from the marketing department and have no basis in reality. My Ford dealer had 300 2015 F-150s on his lot or on order and not one was an H-D Payload truck. A few had the Max Tow package, but none of his and none he could find at other dealers had the H-D Payload package.
I have always been a Ford guy, but my solution was to take my returned deposit and buy a 2015 Ram 2500 CC-SB 6.7L Cummins turbodiesel 4x4 off a dealer's lot that same week. I now have a 1,000-mile break-in trip without towing and a two-week, 2,500-mile tow with our new 5th wheel behind me. Calculated average highway MPG without towing = 23.4; calculated MPG with towing and some off-tow miles during the trip = 12.4. The towing included an entire typical early April day on I-40 westbound through Oklahoma with 40 MPH head winds @ ~8-9 MPG, so the average towing MPG would have been even higher without that wind.
Now for the icing on the cake. I paid $1,000 LESS for the Ram 2500 off the dealer's lot than I would have paid for the F-150 Supercab, Eco-boost, long-bed, Max Tow/H-D Payload XLT 4x4 I had on order! So, where's the "diesel premium"?
And, more icing, the Ram came with a factory-installed tow/snowplow package that included an in-bed 7-pin connector and an under-bed gooseneck/5th wheel rail system that the Ford wouldn't have had. This package allows me to easily drop in my 5th wheel hitch and, when removed, have a flat bed floor with no rails, bolts, or other protrusions.
Needless to say, we are now VERY happy that Ford couldn't deliver our special-order 2015 F-150!