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Old 08-20-2016, 09:08 PM   #1
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Max size fifth wheel toy hauler towing with F250

I am getting ready to purchase a 2016 Super Duty F250 with 6.2L and tow package. Right now I'm towing 27rr Cherokee Greywolf . It will be no problem pulling. But I am looking to upgrade the 3.73 gear ratio to 4.3. What will I be able to tow (Fiver). The tow manual says up to 15,000. Yellow sticker Load capacity on truck is 2964. Anyone have specific models they are pulling right now?
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Old 08-20-2016, 09:54 PM   #2
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I am getting ready to purchase a 2016 Super Duty F250 with 6.2L and tow package. Right now I'm towing 27rr Cherokee Greywolf . It will be no problem pulling. But I am looking to upgrade the 3.73 gear ratio to 4.3. What will I be able to tow (Fiver). The tow manual says up to 15,000. Yellow sticker Load capacity on truck is 2964. Anyone have specific models they are pulling right now?
Everyone has different needs. For the 2 of us and 2 pups the SOB in my signature is fantastic. Not so much if there were rug rats. Just 35' with 3 slides. Loaded around 11,500 and 2240 pin. Not a "lite" model but certainly not overly heavy. Lots of options included. Now ~~ to find one that fits YOU.
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:16 PM   #3
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Thank you. I really like that model and looks like it would work. Not ready to upgrade yet. Just long good options before I pull the trigger.
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Old 08-21-2016, 09:35 AM   #4
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If you add a 200lbs driver and 150 lbs passengers plus a hitch Tow Planner says this is what you have left over.

You're adding approximately 600 lbs. to the truck. You have 2,364 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 9,456 - 11,820 lbs.
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That being said toy haulers are different animal than standard 5er so what affect the garage has on over all pin weight. If you have not purchased your truck yet it I would look at F350 to gain some wiggle room on payload.
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Old 08-21-2016, 09:50 AM   #5
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Biggest issue with toy haulers is the empty pin weight.

In order to be able to be balanced when loaded, they have a very heavy pin when empty.


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I would also look at a 350. I have a '15 250 and we're tossing the idea around of a 5'er toy hauler also. I'm finding the limiting factor is the pin weight, not trailer weight. One of the trailers we're looking at is the Spartan 3210 with a dry weight around 11500 and empty pin weight of 2500-2600. I know once loaded with a 1000 lbs of Harley or atv's, the pin weight will drop since the garage is totally behind the axles. Per Ford, my max trailer weight is 15,100 with a 5'er, so I'm not worried about that. With a diesel in not worried about going, it would be stopping and overall stability.

A '15 F-350 SRW would only get me 600 extra pounds of trailer, but would leave more wiggle room for the pin weight with the higher rear axle rating. Don't know that it's worth the extra expense for me to buy a new truck. If the 5'er won't work, we'd probably keep our current trailer and wait on the class A or C that we plan to buy in 6-7 years or so.

My yellow door jamb sticker says 2150, even with the optional 10k GVWR package. My neighbor has the exact same truck in a 350, his says 3420 with an 11500 GVWR. My rear GAWR is 6100, his is 7000.
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Another way to determine if your truck will safely pull a given 5er is to ask a salesman at RV dealership. They are very knowledgeable about such things. ��������������
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When I bought my new truck, there was about a $2000 difference, between the F250 and F350 SRW - and the 350 gave me greater payload and GVWR...

They are basically the same truck - but legally, you can run heavier with the 350...

That said - any kind of serious toy hauler will likely move you into 350 DRW territory...
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Old 08-21-2016, 02:20 PM   #9
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Where are you guys getting this 15000 lbs at, for the F250 towable weight? I've got a 2014 F250, and it's only rated for 12500. With the same 373 gears. This 12500, is also from Ford, per theit towing chart
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Old 08-21-2016, 02:26 PM   #10
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Tow manual says 15,000 with 4.3 gears instead of 3.73. Weird there is that much difference?
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