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Old 09-22-2014, 08:50 AM   #21
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Have you looked into the Ram 1500 diesel? I know you said you didn't want a diesel, but you didn't say why. It would solve both your problems--enough torque to pull your trailer and great unloaded mileage when you're not. Plus a better, "1500" ride to boot...
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:09 AM   #22
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Diesel is fine. Mechanically, my money is on the Ford. Small engine diesels have more mechanical issues compared to gas motors. Injectors, high pressure fuel pumps, clogged egr valves, oil line leaks and more. These issues far outweigh cost savings in fuel. We are converting our fleet back to gas motors due to the high cost to repair these engines. If you truly need a diesel, you should get it but be prepared to grab your ankles if you need to have it repaired. Our Ford gas motors are working well for us.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:38 AM   #23
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Have you looked into the Ram 1500 diesel? I know you said you didn't want a diesel, but you didn't say why. It would solve both your problems--enough torque to pull your trailer and great unloaded mileage when you're not. Plus a better, "1500" ride to boot...
The problem will be getting a decent deal on the Ecodiesel right now. I know in my area, I can buy a new SCrew F150 EB, 4x4, with the upper XLT package for about $4k less than a similarly equipped Ecodiesel in 2 wheel drive. Also, the Dodge tends to have lower payload numbers than the Ford or Chevy.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:44 AM   #24
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Have you looked into the Ram 1500 diesel? I know you said you didn't want a diesel, but you didn't say why. It would solve both your problems--enough torque to pull your trailer and great unloaded mileage when you're not. Plus a better, "1500" ride to boot...
Better check the payload first. Not a plus for Dodge.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:45 AM   #25
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F150 3.5 Eco with the Max Tow, which gives you 1800-1900lbs of payload. Better MPG as well. The 3.5 Eco will tow circles around the chevy.
Yes. Payload and torque advantages.
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Old 09-22-2014, 10:44 AM   #26
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Yes. Payload and torque advantages.
HP advantages as well with the EB. I watched a video comparing the Ecodiesel to the new 2.7L EB and the Ecodiesel really struggled once it needed to drop a gear. The ability to rev and make HP just wasn't there.
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Old 09-22-2014, 10:47 AM   #27
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I am getting rid of a 2500 and am not interested in any weight police telling me I need a 2500, we tow a few times a year and most of the time park the trailer at the wife's family's cottage for a few months so really looking at a nicer ride and better MPGs again
Well, that leaves me out of this discussion.
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Good luck with your 1/2 ton. Your original question seems to have been resolved with the max tow option.

This weekend I followed someone on the freeway with a huge 5th wheel and they were towing into a sharp head-wind with a half ton. Guy was getting pushed all over the road. Looked more like a snake going down the road than a truck and trailer. Thought he could use a dually more than a diesel. He was only doing about 45mph in a 65 zone. That's always nice too.
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Old 09-22-2014, 01:40 PM   #29
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My crib, I appreciate that concern but who knows what his towing specs are or his trailer specs...length to me doesn't mean much but the weight does. My weight is 7,300 lbs which is clearly under the limits for a half ton. like others have said on this forum before we don't know the story of the situation which you saw.

the question was I know a 9600 will be able to handle it, but should I get a max tow for the gears, axles, extra weight etc...
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Believe the max tow package only gives you 9.76" size rear axle, 3.73 gearing, brake controller, larger cooling radiator and different shocks for better handling.
I would ask, does it increase load capacity too?
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