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Old 09-15-2014, 10:31 AM   #11
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Go for it it works great, as you see in my signature we are using a Touareg to pull our 264 Surveyor, there is no sway because we use a Hensley the hitch on the VW was set by CAN-AM in London Ontario (just up the street and around the corner) ours is a TDI and the mileage both with and without the trailer is awesome. On the neg side plugging in the the electrical (brakes lights plug) is awkward as VW hides it but that is my only neg point.
JR Products 2912 Grand Aero Towing Mirror - Pair Got these from amazon and can recommend them for the VW.

Good luck and happy camping.

Thanks for the info DDC. Done more research on Hensley. They weigh around 175lb. Discovered the PP3 is an 'updated' version of the Hensley Arrow plus has height adjustment, plus lifetime warranty, plus no need for frequent paint jobs, plus cheaper! Any reason to still go with Hensley instead of PP3? Am I missing something?
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Old 09-15-2014, 10:42 AM   #12
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Have you contacted Andy Thomson yet? Here is a pic of ours.






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Old 09-15-2014, 11:01 AM   #13
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Have you contacted Andy Thomson yet?
Nice setup you have. Mine will be very similar! Looks like diesel is the way to go but not sure if it will be VW or MB. The Benz is a good 7.5in wider and 3.5in taller. Not much but it should make a difference in TT resistance.
I have sent CanAm an email over the weekend. Can't wait to get Andy's input.
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My surveyor has torsion suspension so it sits very low, the Benz is nice but the maintenance costs tend to be huge instead of just high like the VW, Andy has set both up so he can give you great advice on either of them.
If I was buying today I would be going with the PP3 because of the price, both have lifetime warranties and both do the same job, I just bought mine in the nineties so Hensley was the only one then.
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Old 09-15-2014, 06:30 PM   #15
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My surveyor has torsion suspension so it sits very low, the Benz is nice but the maintenance costs tend to be huge instead of just high like the VW, Andy has set both up so he can give you great advice on either of them.
If I was buying today I would be going with the PP3 because of the price, both have lifetime warranties and both do the same job, I just bought mine in the nineties so Hensley was the only one then.

I'm not sure what suspensions are on my Wildwood 261bhxl but it is 5" lower than the others at 9'11". This should also help towing and mpg.

Still waiting to hear back from Andy. Will post update once I get to talk to him.
And I'm pretty sure I'll go with a Pro-Pride, mostly because of the adjustable height feature.

Thanks again for sharing your real world knowledge. Much appreciated!
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:29 AM   #16
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Hi BobBaron, BigBaron here! LOL
Either vehicle would be fine. Period. The VW will be less expensive to maintain IF you get the diesel. Do not get the gas engine what ever you do. It doesn't have enough torque. John777 got a steal on a Porsche Cayenne Turbo, so if you look around you might get lucky too.



As to the wheelbase issue, class 8 rigs sure are short to be pulling around a 40' trailer then, aren't they? Ever heard of guys with short wheelbase duallys pulling huge trailers? About the same wheelbase... I used to be one of them pulling around a JLG lift.
I have done a ton of research on both the Hensley and ProPride hitches-even to go so far as to examine the actual design drawings and the patents.
My choice? Hensley. I'll PM you why...
CanAm's hitch mods pass my mechanical engineering/Porsche tech smell test. So much so that I'm copying them on my hitch. I'd have CanAm do it but the shipping to Korea is a little steep.




If you can get the automatic air shocks on the VW remember they don't do the same thing as a WDH. You hitch up the trailer with the car running, and unhitch with the car off.

There are a ton of picture on my photobucket, so have a look around...

I hope this helps!
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I am all for towing small, but I would look into a Ram 1500 3.0l diesel. People are constantly getting high 20s for fuel economy
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VW TDI hands down over the Benz. Not to mention the device costs. The TDI is an awesome motor and tows great.
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I really recommend the diesel. You get great fuel economy when not towing and plenty of power when towing. I use an BMW X5 diesel and love the power. You won't be disappointed with the diesel. I'm also not sure about the length. I don't have any sway issues but out trailer is only 25' overall.


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Old 10-01-2014, 09:32 PM   #20
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So I got a deal I couldn't refuse on a Mercedes ML350 BlueTec (Diesel). A good $6,000 less than the equivalent year/mileage Touareg but the Benz has all the bells and whistles. That extra money will be put in an envelop for future maintenance cost

Now looking to order a Hensley hitch system and going to CanAm to get the MB reinforced. Hoping to enjoy my next 5 years camping on the East Coast with the family.

I will post picks as soon as everything is setup (planned for April 2015).
Thanks everyone and stay tuned!
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