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Old 03-24-2012, 10:10 PM   #1
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Mini lite Tongue weight with Murphy bed down or up

Has anyone weighed their TT with the Murphy bed in stored mode vs down?

We have a mini lite ETC181 which has the integrated Murphy bed and dinette. We usually travel with the bed stored vertically which should place more weight on the tongue. Our tongue weight is 457lbs
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:52 PM   #2
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Funny -- I've wondered about this myself. Physics says the tongue weight will change with the bed down vs. up, but in reality the bed is so light I don't think it makes much difference at all. Do you have a good bathroom scale? Take it outside and measure it both ways!
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:36 PM   #3
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thanks for responding
-- this issue got my interest after my TT was returned from the factory after mods to my Murphy bed. The bed was down. Tend to agree that the weight shouldnt be much more in vertical position.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:42 PM   #4
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457 lbs is quite heavy. When I was shopping for a new minilite all the trailers with the murphy bed in the front were very heavy for the size of these trailer. We opted for a mini lite 1809s which has a pull out and a tonge weight that cannot be beaten by any trailers on the market. Only 230 lbs. With this weight it is almost the same weight than the european trailers.
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Good point capucine -- the tongue weight on my 2306 (not sure about other MiniLites) seems very low compared to the weight of the trailer. In fact, maybe too low if you go by the rule of thumb that you want a minimum of 10% of the trailer weight on the tongue.

rschoono289, how are you getting such a high tongue weight? Is most of your equipment (pump, heater, etc) in front of the trailer axle?
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:07 PM   #6
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The tongue weight is calculated from a CAT scale last year with E2 WDH enabled
TV front axle = 2840
TV rear axle = 2365
TT axle = 2880 Note: UVW was 2668
Combined weight TV+TT=8880
TV fully loaded with full fuel, 2 adults,scooter,camping equip and E2 WDH = 5542
Calculation: TT weight = TV+TT(8880)-TV(loaded) (5542) = 3338
tongue weight = TT weight - TT axle = 3338 - 2880 = 458
The TT had 1/4 tank of FW,Empty GW and BW
I didnt have the loaded TV FR/RA weights so not sure my E2 WDH is setup correctly
Any error you can see in my calculation?
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:18 PM   #7
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sorry error in my reply above
TV rear axle = 2365 should have been 3160
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #8
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I'll be picking up my 2306 in a few weeks and want to weigh both the TV and TT but am a little intimidated for some reason.
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:29 PM   #9
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Do a search on this site for "Weigh your RV - Bridgestone" which is good description of what is done at the CAT scales. Usually quite afew CAT sites in urban areas, also search on google. One hint is to bring long stick so you can reach annunciator button as you come onto scales .. its made for semis so quite high up LOL Quite easy to do and scale operators are helpful.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:31 AM   #10
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rschoono289: Your etc 181 is a single axle trailer if I remember on this model? all single axle trailers are heavier on the tonge than the dual axles trailers. But for your model according to the brochure it reads: dry weight 2611 lbs and for the tonge weight it reads 347 lbs. To bring it up to close to 457 lbs even with the propane tanks filled and the battery it needs a lots of materials for that difference. Your GVWR on this trailer is 3649 lbs.
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