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Old 08-13-2012, 09:16 AM   #31
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something to consider not previously mentioned - are you bicycle folks? You shouldn't hang your bicycles off the rear trailer bumper (use the search feature on this forum for extended converstations and heart wrenching pictures of the consequences). So if you plan to bring along bicycles having a pick up means you have a place to put them (in the bed of the pick up).

I totally understand making the transition from ultralite backpacking / climbing to having an RV. You go from working to eliminate grams to finding yourself taking along a rice cooker. From planning every meal and packaging only exactly what you will need to having staples on hand (butter, flour, sugar) as well as baking pans and the vitamix for smoothies. You can shop at local farmer's markets along your route and savor farm fresh instead of freeze dried. You can bring your hobbies, your instruments, the spinning wheel sewing machine, art supplies and a selection of books and enjoy your creativity along the road. Being able to take full advantage of the places you go and enhancing your experiences is what having an RV offers.

I mentioned before that our pick up gets the same mileage loaded / unloaded. Why not bring your water from home and the cast iron dutch oven for the campfire? Having a tow vehicle that isn't anywhere close to being marginal means that bringing float tubes or a kayak is also possible.
Funny, but seriously encouraging at the same time! Thanks for the comments. The DW has always jokingly said she would like a scooter along when we go camping so that might even be possible. It will be nice to take along a few extra "essentials" like a couple of bikes.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:10 PM   #32
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my thoughts on a trailer that weight would be a used jeep liberty with the crd engine. 5000 lb tow rating, diesel torque and decent fuel economy when not towing. iirc, they also had decent mileage when towing as well. certainly in line with a v6 pickup. plus the added advantage of 4wd.

in my part of the world, you cant hardly throw a dead cat without hitting a liberty, so parts would be reasonable i would think (for the liberty, not the cat).
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:30 PM   #33
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Made up my mind finally

A bit of an update hopefully to help others a little in their TV predicaments. Ended up buying a 2010 Ford F150 through a family member. Has complete tow package including factory hitch, 7 pin hook up and factory trailer brake control with 5.4 L engine and higher transmission ratio. Rated for 9500 lbs.

Pulled it first time today, just to the Hitch installer to get a WD hitch put on. Pulled real nice but no real test yet. Guy at the hitch place couldn't figure out why I wanted a WD hitch as the truck only sagged 1 inch when trailer was attached without one.

Skipped the sway bar for now as he was out of stock and really puzzled about my wanting one. He's been installing hitches and related for decades.

So maybe I bought too much of a truck for light trailer but the deal was too good to pass up and we'll see how the gas mileage goes. First fill was $130 (CDN)

Hope to actually go camping in the next week or so.

Thanks for all the input and recommendations. Really helped a lot!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:09 PM   #34
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Congrats on your TV purchase! You should do great with your selection. I used to pull my previous TT with a mid size V6 SUV - using a WDH and it did great with the exception of hills...but nothing towsed it better than the F150! Eventually we sold our 186 TT and this year bought a hard sided pop up which I tow with the beastly Titan...DH says the same - its alot of truck for such a small trailer...still have my SUV as the go to town rig. Gas is better with the Ford 16 mpg because its not 4wd..Titan does about 14+ mpg hwy - my 4wd SUV does about 16...
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:50 PM   #35
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Ended up buying a 2010 Ford F150 through a family member.Pulled real nice but no real test yet.
First of all, congrats on the new truck...

I can't imagine being without a pickup, and for many years had two of them as our only 4 wheeled vehicles.



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Guy at the hitch place couldn't figure out why I wanted a WD hitch as the truck only sagged 1 inch when trailer was attached without one.

Skipped the sway bar for now as he was out of stock and really puzzled about my wanting one. He's been installing hitches and related for decades.
In the oilfield we say it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. This is exactly the case for both the WDH & the friction sway control. Trust me on this one, being flipped by a passing 18 wheeler is not fun. I was lucky it wasn't me as well, but seeing it happen is something I will never forget.


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So maybe I bought too much of a truck for light trailer but the deal was too good to pass up and we'll see how the gas mileage goes. First fill was $130 (CDN)
The stouter the truck the better, if I had known I was going to get another TT our new truck would have been stouter as well. I'll know after our trip to NC next week if I am going to have to trade in our new truck for another one or not.

As for gas mileage, it's been my experience that once a certain weight/wind drag is reached every gas engine I've towed with didn't vary enough in mileage to make it worth noting. YMMV of course...

I'll never forget meeting up with a friend from work at a campground in Louisiana many moons ago. He pulled in with a 37' 5th wheel behind an old Chevy crew cab 1ton dually with 454 v-8. I told him I was glad I wasn't buying gas for it. He looked me in the eye with a straight face and said....

"Heck I get 9mpg with this thing.....

6 on the HWY, and 3 in town"....



Good luck with your new rig, hope y'all have many trouble free, fun filled miles out on the road...
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:15 AM   #36
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I LOVE having a truck. I hope to never be without a truck, trailer or no trailer.

End of discussion.

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Old 08-18-2012, 06:08 AM   #37
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you'll like the truck, i sure like ours

last week we replaced our aging ford windstar with a dodge dakota 4door and in the last 24 hours, we towed for 1800 km(1200 miles).

we pull a 21 ft 2600 lb(dry) travel trailer
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:25 AM   #38
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i just replaced a 2010 F150..5.4..Supercab ..4x2..tow rating of ..9,800lbs...with a ..2012 F 250 Super Duty...Supercab..Diesel..4x2..its tow rating... 14,000 lbs conventional TT...16,300 lbs..5th wheel... there may be a bigger 5th wheel in our future ??
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I have a 2011 F250, CC, diesel, longbed, rwd and the 5er limit is 16,200 lbs with a combined limit of 23,500 lbs and the combined limit and pin weight will be the limiting factors. If you take the truck weight, ready to go, plus pin weight you are near the 10,000 limit for the truck. Take the 10,000 from the 23,500 and you can pull a 5er of 13,500 lbs not the 16,200 lbs.
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I have a 2011 F250, CC, diesel, longbed, rwd and the 5er limit is 16,200 lbs with a combined limit of 23,500 lbs and the combined limit and pin weight will be the limiting factors. If you take the truck weight, ready to go, plus pin weight you are near the 10,000 limit for the truck. Take the 10,000 from the 23,500 and you can pull a 5er of 13,500 lbs not the 16,200 lbs.
Looking at the "specs" in the back of the 2012 Ford Superduty brocheure.. F 250 Super Duty.. Supercab ..diesel..MAX.. loaded 5th wheel ...16,300 lbs..conventional trailer 14,000lbs..
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