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Old 06-28-2013, 06:26 PM   #21
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I just looked at my door stickers a little closer. Now I am confused about the max payload....

Ford says my truck "without" the Max Tow Package (highlighted in yellow) has a GVWR of 7200 lbs and a Max Payload of 1300.

Ford says my truck "with" the Max Tow Package (highlighted in green) has a GVWR of 7650 lbs (The sticker says this) so that means my max Payload is 1900 lbs. (Look at the Ford Specs sheet below).

Maybe they didnt update the 2nd sticker with the proper payload?

The sticker shows I have the correct GVWR of 7650 lbs, but only shows my Payload of 1581 lbs.

So does that mean my truck can handle the 1900 lbs (frame and axle) if I get tires that can or what?
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:07 PM   #22
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I just looked at my door stickers a little closer. Now I am confused about the max payload....

Ford says my truck "without" the Max Tow Package (highlighted in yellow) has a GVWR of 7200 lbs and a Max Payload of 1300.

Ford says my truck "with" the Max Tow Package (highlighted in green) has a GVWR of 7650 lbs (The sticker says this) so that means my max Payload is 1900 lbs. (Look at the Ford Specs sheet below).

Maybe they didnt update the 2nd sticker with the proper payload?

The sticker shows I have the correct GVWR of 7650 lbs, but only shows my Payload of 1581 lbs.

So does that mean my truck can handle the 1900 lbs (frame and axle) if I get tires that can or what?
The max payload is the most it's going to be. Each option and fancy doo-dad on the truck comes off of that. Your payload is 1,581. It already has 321 pounds of crap added to deduct from that.
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:12 PM   #23
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I have read that I can add a leaf or air bags to add more "max payload" (not GVWR) to a truck. Is this not true?
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:24 PM   #24
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I have read that I can add a leaf or air bags to add more "max payload" (not GVWR) to a truck. Is this not true?
I'll tell you what I've read- but I'll also be the first to tell you I don't know enough about trucks/vehicles in general to understand it. "They" (the Internet) say that air bags and helper springs can't increase a truck's payload. However, lots of people can argue against it and I don't have the background/basis for understanding either side of the argument.

Now, as a matter of semantics (and it likely doesn't matter for the discussion at hand) - simply from a math perspective, you can't add payload without increasing the maximum the truck can carry (e.g. GVWR).
Payload = a - b
Where a= the truck's GVWR and b = the weight of the truck and everything in/on it

The only way you can increase the payload number is to decrease truck weight or increase the GVWR.

From a simply math view- adding a leaf or air bags technical adds to the truck's weight and would decrease its payload. Now, from an actual technical perspective, it may help you carry more (or may not- again, I don't know enough to do anything but repeat what I've read).
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:39 PM   #25
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Thanks, that sounds logic to me.

Now I feel like I did with my Taco, a truck that cant do everything I would ever want it to because of the low payload...

For example if I add myself, wife, cloths and other misc items in the truck itself, that would (estimate) take away 500 lbs of the 1,500 leaving me with 1000ish left. Now lets say I want to put a hard top cover on the back of the truck (200lbs) and spray in linex bedliner (which I get sprayed next week) (estimate 50lbs), roof rack (50lbs), air bags and compressor (20lbs). That will leave me with only 680lbs left for the trailer weight on the tongue.....

I plan on going and weighing the new truck dry (without me), wet with me and wife and some gear, and then with the trailer attached with the 2 bikes in it. and go from there.

* Plus that is using the max, so those numbers isnt even saving some for spare like I have read to only use at most 80% of your max limits....

Arrrrrg LOL
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And that's the down side of owning a half ton truck. But if you use your head and load smart you can make it work.
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I will say- I do NOT subscribe to the 80% rule *if* you're using actual weights. I have no problem running straight to the max, as long as I stay under my ratings.

But, you're sure right- payload gets eaten up quick. My truck, ready for travel has 1,200 pounds of payload used up. I come within 800 pounds of my GVWR on my dually with my fifth wheel. And that was before firewood in the truck bed or much anything back there (and less than normal weight for the camper).
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The max payload is the most it's going to be. Each option and fancy doo-dad on the truck comes off of that. Your payload is 1,581. It already has 321 pounds of crap added to deduct from that.
I have pretty much the exact same truck (even the same color), except mine is an XLT. Payload as stickered on the door is around 1845 lbs. The moonroof and all the goodies on the platinum add up quick.
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Everybody needs to get info about combining the "Max tow pkg" and the "heavy duty payload pkg" these are 2 seperate things you can get on a F150... Getting a 3.5 eco boost...4 door super crew cab...6 1/2 foot box and a 3.73 axel will give you 7 lug rims...e-rated tires..the "BIG MIRRORS"....11,300 towing and something like 2,400 lbs payload capacity..
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:00 PM   #30
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Unfortunately the HD Payload Package is only available on XL and XLT Regular Cab and SuperCab models with 8' box and XL, XLT and Lariat SuperCrew with 6.5' box.

I have a shortbed (5 1/2') and a Platinum.
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