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08-25-2014, 11:04 AM
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Need "real world" opinions on towing..
Hi All,
I am looking at the 2015 2703WS which weighs 6311. My Yukon is rated for 7100 lbs. Is this a realistic tow option? My Yukon is the XL SLT. It does have the tow package. Now of course it pulls my 2104s with no problems, just wondering if I can move up in size?
Thanks in advance!
Susan
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08-25-2014, 11:21 AM
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Looks like fully loaded you'll be over 7500lbs, which would be more than I'd want to pull with your TV. You'll probably be unhappy with performance in any kind of hills.
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08-25-2014, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CampingDixieDogs
Hi All,
I am looking at the 2015 2703WS which weighs 6311. My Yukon is rated for 7100 lbs. Is this a realistic tow option? My Yukon is the XL SLT. It does have the tow package. Now of course it pulls my 2104s with no problems, just wondering if I can move up in size?
Thanks in advance!
Susan
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Trailer weight is 6311 dry which means you add 1000# of your stuff "normal user added weight"
Trailer is now 7311#
Now add dealer add on ' s
Propane tanks full of propane.
Battery.
150# + or -
Now if you carry water with you.
8# per gallon
Bigger truck or smaller camper.
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08-25-2014, 11:48 AM
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I was afraid of that....I need the SUV because the dogs are in kennels, not just lose running around. I really like the open floor plan of the 2703ws dang it...
Thanks for the info!
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08-25-2014, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CampingDixieDogs
I was afraid of that....I need the SUV because the dogs are in kennels, not just lose running around. I really like the open floor plan of the 2703ws dang it...
Thanks for the info!
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How big are your dogs? Most of the Crew Cab 1/2 T Trucks have fold up seats in the back - that may work for your kennels.
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08-25-2014, 12:00 PM
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I know I am getting picky....but I love my SUV. I can take out the back seat, load everything we need for a tournament (2 extra med size kennels, fold up table, chairs, etc.) and still have room for 4 people.
Can "helper" springs or air bags let you tow more? or is that just so the ride is better?
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08-25-2014, 12:12 PM
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Try getting all you gear together and weight it. If you don't have 1000# of gear, you might be ok. As for dealer add ons, the only things are filling the propane and a battery(s) usually.
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08-25-2014, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CampingDixieDogs
I know I am getting picky....but I love my SUV. I can take out the back seat, load everything we need for a tournament (2 extra med size kennels, fold up table, chairs, etc.) and still have room for 4 people.
Can "helper" springs or air bags let you tow more? or is that just so the ride is better?
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Air bags or anything of the sort will NOT increase your towing capacity.
Do you take 4 people?
Remember ANYTHING you put in the TV takes away from your payload.
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08-25-2014, 12:21 PM
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I am looking at the Tahoe as a potential TV to tow my pop up. I recall that the current ones can tow over 8,000lbs with a tow package. You may want to look into the current models. The vehicle would be substantially similar to what you have so that you know it will suit all your needs.
Vin.
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08-25-2014, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CampingDixieDogs
I know I am getting picky....but I love my SUV. I can take out the back seat, load everything we need for a tournament (2 extra med size kennels, fold up table, chairs, etc.) and still have room for 4 people.
Can "helper" springs or air bags let you tow more? or is that just so the ride is better?
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You are not being picky...those are requirements
Take a look at the Chevy suburban or the Ford Expedition - both will tow over 9K and give you the interior room you need! Just make sure all the weights work for you - neither of these SUVs are cheap
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08-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HSVBamaBob
You are not being picky...those are requirements
Take a look at the Chevy suburban or the Ford Expedition - both will tow over 9K and give you the interior room you need! Just make sure all the weights work for you - neither of these SUVs are cheap
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All SUV's are not cheap. Even still they seem to fly off of the dealer lots. My local dealer has a hard time finding units with a tow package included. I never understood why they do not just install them on every large vehicle. I have to image that the majority of people who purchase a truck that gets 10MPG is looking to pull something.
Vin.
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08-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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No I do not take 4 people, just 2. I do take all the stuff. I will have to weigh everything I have...I know it adds up quick. Yes a new Chevy Suburban or the Ford Expedition would be nice...but bought mine used and it is paid for!
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08-25-2014, 01:48 PM
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Hey CampingDixieDogs...not to hijack the thread but would you be interested in attending a FROG Rally in N AL OCT 24-26?
Now back to SUVs....
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08-25-2014, 01:59 PM
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Bama...yes that would be a good month for me. Our tournament is in Indianapolis, IN and I don't have enough days to take off and to go.
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08-25-2014, 02:25 PM
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If you are over the GVCW of the tow vehicle and get into an accident, I don't think your insurance company will honor your policy....
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08-26-2014, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by thumperpaul
If you are over the GVCW of the tow vehicle and get into an accident, I don't think your insurance company will honor your policy....
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When is the last time you heard of an insurance company having a wrecked TV and camper hauled to the scales to check the weight? Wouldn't you say that 99% of accidents are caused by someone breaking a law? Speeding, failure to maintain control of vehicle, traveling in the wrong lane, running a stop sign/red light. Why would they have to cover all of these but suddenly they don't have to cover you if you are overloaded? Which, BTW, isn't even a law in most states- it's nothing more than a sticker that the manufacturer put on the door jamb.
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08-26-2014, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dustman_stx
When is the last time you heard of an insurance company having a wrecked TV and camper hauled to the scales to check the weight? Wouldn't you say that 99% of accidents are caused by someone breaking a law? Speeding, failure to maintain control of vehicle, traveling in the wrong lane, running a stop sign/red light. Why would they have to cover all of these but suddenly they don't have to cover you if you are overloaded? Which, BTW, isn't even a law in most states- it's nothing more than a sticker that the manufacturer put on the door jamb.
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You are absolutely right. Insurance specifically covers stupidity and owner mistakes. There is no doubt to this.
Vin.
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08-26-2014, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dustman_stx
When is the last time you heard of an insurance company having a wrecked TV and camper hauled to the scales to check the weight? Wouldn't you say that 99% of accidents are caused by someone breaking a law? Speeding, failure to maintain control of vehicle, traveling in the wrong lane, running a stop sign/red light. Why would they have to cover all of these but suddenly they don't have to cover you if you are overloaded? Which, BTW, isn't even a law in most states- it's nothing more than a sticker that the manufacturer put on the door jamb.
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Besides that, they would have to go collect and prove all the debris was in your vehicle/trailer. A little on the ridiculous side IMO.
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