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Old 04-04-2019, 11:29 PM   #1
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Hi everyone. I am going to be purchasing a new Flagstaff 21D or Rockwood 2104S in 1 to 2 months. I have a 2002 Ford Explorer with towing package, V6, 4.0/245, 254 Torque @ 3700 RPMs. With a Weight Distribution Hitch, I can tow 6740 lbs. Will I be ok to tow up hills without any problems? I am planning on living in the TT and just live out my life seeing our beautiful USA. Thanks in advance
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:03 AM   #2
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Having owned a similar Explorer, with the same engine, I'd say don't do it. Especially since you'll be towing through mountains.
Where did you get the 6740lbs number? The 2002 Ford Towing guide states the absolute max is 5940lbs IF it has the 3.73 rear end, 4x2 and automatic transmission.
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My vehicle has the 3.73 rear end, 4x2, and 5-speed automatic transmission. Has the ClassIII/IV towing package. There is a site on the web that you can put in your VIN number and it gives you all of your vehicles details. On a different site from Ford, I found that my vehicle can tow a max of 7,300 lbs but I wanted to keep it at 6k or lower. Another web site said the 6,740 lbs towing capacity. Also, my mechanic says I should have no problem pulling either of these TT. I'm just trying to be careful and not get into something I can't get out of. I appreciate your comment. What would you recommend to safely pull either of these TT?
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:25 AM   #4
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The limiting factor with either of these trailers is not the Explorer's "tow rating," but the tow vehicle's payload capacity. You will need a tow vehicle with substantially more payload than the Explorer. Check the yellow sticker in your driver's side door; it will likely be in the range of 1,000 lbs.

The Rockwood 2104S weighs 4,816 empty; if you add just half of its carrying capacity you are now at 5,616 lbs. The Rockwood's "empty" tongue weight is 560 lbs (11.6 percent of its empty weight). Loaded, your tongue weight will be more than 650 lbs. Now add the weight of your hitch; say 100 lbs. With the Explorer's payload capacity of 1,000 lbs, that leaves little margin for any other weight in the tow vehicle itself.

I think you are looking at any of the half-ton trucks to tow the Rockwood or the Flagstaff; or a large SUV like an Expedition or Suburban.

My first trailer was about the weight of the Rockwood / Flagstaff you are considering; I was not happy towing it with a Toyota Sequoia equipped with the 4.7 V-8. We quickly upgraded to a Chevy Avalanche with a 6.0L and 4.10 gears.

Good luck - Hope this helps.
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:31 AM   #5
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Hi everyone. I am going to be purchasing a new Flagstaff 21D or Rockwood 2104S in 1 to 2 months. I have a 2002 Ford Explorer with towing package, V6, 4.0/245, 254 Torque @ 3700 RPMs. With a Weight Distribution Hitch, I can tow 6740 lbs. Will I be ok to tow up hills without any problems? I am planning on living in the TT and just live out my life seeing our beautiful USA. Thanks in advance
You will struggle up hills with that unit and may be at your max , you can do it but will wish you had more in the power and payload dept
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what are the specifics for your SUV? and your payload number? Your Payload Number can be found on your front door Drivers side sticker.



In addition, many SUV's have a frontal area rating listing for towing. This is because the Camper behind you ascts a giant board that you have to push through the wind
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My vehicle has the 3.73 rear end, 4x2, and 5-speed automatic transmission. Has the ClassIII/IV towing package. There is a site on the web that you can put in your VIN number and it gives you all of your vehicles details. On a different site from Ford, I found that my vehicle can tow a max of 7,300 lbs but I wanted to keep it at 6k or lower. Another web site said the 6,740 lbs towing capacity. Also, my mechanic says I should have no problem pulling either of these TT. I'm just trying to be careful and not get into something I can't get out of. I appreciate your comment. What would you recommend to safely pull either of these TT?
You need to download the 2002 Ford Towing Guide and read the Explorer tow ratings.
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Thank you Go West and Mr. M. I did download from Ford, the towing PDF. It says 7,300 lbs with my 3.73 rear end and class III/IV towing package. That is why I'm asking you experts. I don't want to get in over my head.
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In addition to the sticker you posted, do you see a label like this called "Tire and Loading Information." It should also be on your driver's door post or vehicle door edge. This will list your Explorer's specific payload capacity. (These examples display payload capacities of 882 lbs and 1,664 lbs.)
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