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Old 10-15-2015, 01:58 PM   #151
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Thanks for the resource link. I am pasting a comment on that forum here. "On an Rv site I frequent there is talk of someone putting a couple of cups left in the bottom of the DEF container into the fuel by accident and then drove it until the "water in fuel "light came on, I didn't realize this was so common. Anyway the truck was a 2013 Ford but just as easily been a 2013/14 Ram, the cost of repairs was $14,000, the entire fuel system has to be replaced, apparently the crystals do not stop growing even if the filters are replaced and the system flushed, eventually they will clog an injector open and hydroloc then BANG. While GM thought to have the DEF refill under the hood Ford and Ram thought differently and Ram even left the fuel cap off to make it easier. Heads up all."
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Old 10-15-2015, 02:00 PM   #152
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I assume that my driving 4 miles to the garage might not have been enough elapsed time/mileage for the crystals to,have formed. Fingers and toes are crossed.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:40 PM   #153
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Is it possible the 7 mph difference can pick up nearly an extra 2mpg??? I guess but it seems like a big % gain. My MDS was pretty active on the flats at anything below 70mph. The truck does seem happiest at 75-78 mph. Still below 2k rpms and in 6th gear.


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With 12,000miles so far, at 70 we get 18-20. At 80 14-16. Below 72 the mds is on quite a bit. At 80 it rarely kicks on on flat ground, mostly just downhill.

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Old 10-15-2015, 05:53 PM   #154
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I agree not having a Fuel Cap on the Ram 2500 is to me an Issue, I always put a rag over the Fuel fill while adding Def .. And as a habit, I always fill the def first and make sure the cap is back on tight before I Fuel.. I wonder if you could put a cap on the fuel fill


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Old 10-15-2015, 07:41 PM   #155
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How much did that repair set him back?
About $350 with a new water sensor
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:47 PM   #156
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I assume that my driving 4 miles to the garage might not have been enough elapsed time/mileage for the crystals to,have formed. Fingers and toes are crossed.
hate to tell you but the crystals form almost immediately . you dealing with mostly distilled water and UREA . that stuff is bad news . my friend was lucky he noticed what he did .never started the truck and had it towed to a garage . took them a good part of the day to do the work .

I've hear others have paid as much as 13,000 or more for new fuel system and injectors .
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:43 AM   #157
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Several people I know are using a 2 inch boiler plug for a fuel cap.
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I first thought that having the Def tank under the hood in my 2013 2500 was an inconvenience but having heard these reports I think GM may have had a good idea.


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Old 10-16-2015, 02:40 PM   #159
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So far, I might be a little lucky. Mechanics said that there are no indications that the contaminates got past the filters. Everything flushed and the insurance agreed to cover the filters back. This means the filters, lines, sensor / sending unit, low pressure pump and a new tank. If the contaminates got to the high pressure pump, that would have been 6,000 plus the cost of injectors. Thank goodness for insurance.
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