New 5er Tow Question

[gvanmeter]

I have the 2006 4x4, 5.4 Lariat with 3.73, trans cooler, I'm looking at a usee 5er that will weigh 9k empty. I only pull short trips, 30 40 miles. What do you think? I currently pull 5er, but it's old, weighs about 6.5k, plus I pull a jet ski behind that.

[MtnGuy]

Originally Posted by gvanmeter

I have the 2006 4x4, 5.4 Lariat with 3.73, trans cooler, I'm looking at a usee 5er that will weigh 9k empty. I only pull short trips, 30 40 miles. What do you think? I currently pull 5er, but it's old, weighs about 6.5k, plus I pull a jet ski behind that.

I think that setup came in an F150, 250, and 350. Which do you have, and what is the GVWR on the door sticker ??

[gvanmeter]

Originally Posted by mtnguy

I think that setup came in an F150, 250, and 350. Which do you have, and what is the GVWR on the door sticker ??

It's an F-150 GVWR 7200, 18" wheels

[Herk7769]

There really is not enough information here to give you good (heck any) advice.

"9000 pounds empty" does not give a lot to go on.
For the camper, make, model, and and GVWR would be more helpful.

For the truck, year, make, model, short, standard or long bed, options and modifications you made (like lift kits), as well as payload, available (take it to a weigh station with you and the family in it) to get a starting weight and subtract it from your GVWR.

Lou

[gvanmeter]

2006 F-150 4x4 super cab, 5.4 V8, 18" wheels, the GVWR on the truck door is 7200
I'm looking at 32' Cardinal 5er, UVW 9500, to camp short trips 30 40 miles, Just me and the wife, light packers. I'm going to buy F-250, just not right away. Hoping to camp the rest of this year with the new camper.

[gvanmeter]

3.73 gears, 6 speed auto tranny

[MtnGuy]

Originally Posted by gvanmeter

3.73 gears, 6 speed auto tranny

6 speed in a 2006 ???

That is way too much camper for a 1/2 ton pickup, and maybe even for an F250. The pin weight is gonna probably be around 2000 lbs. empty, and will go up from there. The GVWR of an F150 is going to be exceeded by a right wide margin, that GVWR of an F250 might be close, depending on what else is being carried.

[Herk7769]

any more info on the camper?
year and model?

Truck - long bed or short
4x4 or 2x4?

[Herk7769]

2006 Ford F-150 Lariat Crew Cab Pickup 5.4L V8 4x4 4-speed Automatic 6.6 ft. Bed Features and Specs


Maximum towing capacity: 9100 lbs.**
Maximum payload: 1500 lbs.**
Gross weight: 7200 lbs.
Curb weight: 5577 lbs.
Angle of approach: 25.0 degrees
Angle of departure: 25.2 degrees


You must be able to carry the weight of the hitch and 15-25% of your camper's weight in the bed. For this you will need payload available.
It has to come from somewhere.

15% of the empty camper is 1350 pounds (that is the minimum loading without compromising truck handling). Add 100 for the hitch is about 1450 pounds.

The "optimum" load balance for safe handling is 20% of camper weight on the pin. That is 1800 pounds plus 100 for the hitch. 1900 total.

You do not have enough payload available or towing capacity to tow this camper across the street safely IMHO.

[whj77372]

You got some very good advice! I would not want to tow over weight even for 30 or 40 miles and with what you described you will be over weight with the truck and maybe rear axel as well. Please be careful. They advertized that my new 5er, 2012 V-Cross 275 with an empty weight of 7791 lbs and a gross weight rating of 9,850 lbs as being 1/2 tow towable. Don't see how that could be, I have an F250, diesel, CC, long bed, SRW, 2WD and I need that truck to tow the 9,450 lbs ready to go 5er!

[gvanmeter]

The updated 5.4-liter Triton V8 is revised and includes variable valve timing for the first time. The result is better low-speed and peak torque. Horsepower now is 300, an increase of 15 percent from before. Ford officials boast best-in-class low-end torque, with more than 80 percent of the 365 foot-pounds of torque available at 1000 rpm. It tops out at 3750 rpm.
Ford increased the tow rating for the new, light-duty F-150, putting it at 9,900 pounds. This leads the class.

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by gvanmeter

The updated 5.4-liter Triton V8 is revised and includes variable valve timing for the first time. The result is better low-speed and peak torque. Horsepower now is 300, an increase of 15 percent from before. Ford officials boast best-in-class low-end torque, with more than 80 percent of the 365 foot-pounds of torque available at 1000 rpm. It tops out at 3750 rpm.
Ford increased the tow rating for the new, light-duty F-150, putting it at 9,900 pounds. This leads the class.

You don't have to pull the cab off to replace the head gaskets do ya?

[ng2951]

Chances are you will have a minimum of 1,000 of stuff in the 5ver. The unloaded weight does not include the weight of the propane, fresh/gray/black water, etc. either. In all likelihood the weight of the air condintioner(s) is also not in there.

You will easily be over 10,000# and probably be very close to 11,000# if you do not have gensets.

That sounds like a lot of trailer for a 1/2 ton. Another thing when looking at 3/4 ton TVs is that the GCWR on gas vs diesel are sometimes not the same. Be sure to check that before you commit to a particular 3/4 ton.

[talladega1]

gvanmeter, while your truck will be grossly over-loaded, and probably quite scary to drive, if you are only going 30 to 40 miles, you could probably limp along at 50 mph without killing anyone.
But do look at getting a new truck asap.

[gvanmeter]

Originally Posted by f1100turbo

You don't have to pull the cab off to replace the head gaskets do ya?

Maybe, but at least Ford doesn't need any fed (my tax) dollars to make the number 1 truck!

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by gvanmeter

Maybe, but at least Ford doesn't need any fed (my tax) dollars to make the number 1 truck!

Blind squirrel finds a nut every once and awhile!