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Old 06-20-2014, 08:15 PM   #11
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I have an XLT now and I don't really need all those bells and whistles that come on the high-priced packages. Vinyl and cloth are fine. My first truck had rubber mats instead of carpet, and I liked being able to scrub it and hose it out, and let it dry on a Texas summer afternoon.

Pricing online has me already leaning toward the Dodge. We'll see after I drive the Ford, but it will really have to have huge WOW factor to overcome the price difference. I can buy lot of fuel for that difference.

Another thing... Since this is my first diesel, what are you having to pay for maintenance, and how often? I do my own oil changes and fuel filters, etc. should not be a problem.

Thanks for the replies... Please keep them coming.
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Old 06-20-2014, 09:06 PM   #12
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You will have to do oil changes every 5000 miles. My old 2009 f250 psd took 15 quarts of oil... dealership charged close to $100 per oil change. You will change the fuel filter every 10000 miles (every other oil change) @ about another $110 or so. My era ford required I run cetane boost with every tank of fuel (my new chevy which has def doesn't need this do not sure a out this on newer Ford's). You need to drain your water separator monthly (free, do it yourself).

As for Ford vs dodge.... I had issues with my ford but it was a different engine so irrelevant here. I test drove a dodge 3500 CTD when I bought this truck. It was a nice truck and I would have bought it but the dealership wasn't willing to deal. We got a much better deal on the chevy (not what you want, so I will respectfully stay off that topic).

Pay close attention to all capacities on any truck you get. Pay attention to the tire loading sticker for that trucks payload (my f250 only had 1500 lbs payload but I have seen some in the 2500 range). Also pay attention to hitch ratings as i hAve seen differences in trucks with that as well. I suggest for the little bit more money go for the 3500/350 so you have enough truck for any tt you want. We bought ours because we were looking at tt with 11000 lb gvwr, we changed our minds and are 5ers shopping instead but that's ok because we have enough truck for the 5ers we like.

You mentioned wanting bed space so you would forgo a 5er. Do yourself a favor and check out the b&w turnover ball. You can have your cake and eat it too with that.

Happy hunting.
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Old 06-20-2014, 09:49 PM   #13
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Do yourself a favor and consider an f350. Not much more money but you get more ability to tow.

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Old 06-21-2014, 04:56 AM   #14
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I like the recommendation to choose the trailer first, then the truck. The only other option is to do like Twisty did and just get the best payload/GCWR possible.
Will you tow to the competitions so you can stay in your trailer?
Some pics of your "toys" would be neat to see. (hint hint)
Have fun shopping!
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:32 AM   #15
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Just for your own information schrederman there is little difference between the Ford F250 and the F350. If you get the F250 with the camper package itís the same truck.

The difference is how Ford classifies the two trucks. The F250 is a class 2B and the F350 is a class 3, to be in class 2B it canít be rated over 10000lb, and to be in class 3 it starts at 10000lb. the big decision is how do you want your truck to be rated (license, taxes that kind of thing).

Now to your original question, I like the Cummins and the suspension on the Dodge, but I donít like the styling. I own a Ford and I like it, man itís a beast, but its old school. The torque on the Ford and Dodge Diesels trucks is very close so it should be a push.

You will like both, by the way I would not count out the GM trucks their very good too.
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Old 06-21-2014, 09:18 AM   #16
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The only difference between an F250 and 350 is...

A spacer on the rear axle (4" vs. 2") and an extra leaf spring.

That's according to a guy that works on them for a living.
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A spacer on the rear axle (4" vs. 2") and an extra leaf spring.

That's according to a guy that works on them for a living.
I agree, but when you buy the camper package you get the extra leaf spring, but the 4" lift is on the F350 only.

A lot of 250 guys like to put the 4" lift on their trucks and its a simple Ford add on or so they say, I like my 250 right where its at, its high enough LOL.
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Old 06-21-2014, 09:57 AM   #18
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$60 for 2.5 gallons of DEF! The guy is crazy. The average at Sams, Wal-Mart, and most other places is between $9 and $13 for 2.5 gallons. If you have it filled at the dealer, the price goes up dramatically. Don't ever have it filled at the dealer.

I am also skeptical about the mileage numbers for the RAM. I average just short of 19mpg daily driving my F-250, and right around 11mpg towing my 11K 5th wheel. I consider that pretty exceptional mileage. Of course, your numbers will vary depending on what and where you are towing. But you asked for real world, and here it is.
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:22 AM   #19
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I faced the same dilema. I owned 5 Dodge trucks in a row so I bought a new 2011 Dodge F150 with a 10,000 lb tow limit. It fell flat on it's face (hemi engine) trying to pull 6,000 lbs. So I looked at the 2500 Dodges and they were cheap looking with crummy interiors. I looked at Ford F250 super duty's with the 6.7 liter diesel. I was impressed. The dealership also had some 350s that were similar and the uptick wasn't much. Looking for trouble free towing after all the trouble with the Dodge so I bought the F350 Super Duty. That was nearly 2 years ago and I'm so happy I did it. Yes the mileage is 10-12 towing and yes diesel fuel cost $3.50-$4.00 a gallon and yes the truck takes a lot of oil on an oil change. But, damn!, it'll pull anything I hook to it, I covered the bed with a cap and I can stuff it full and take 4 people too and there's never a whimper or a wiggle. The dealer has not seen me since I bought it. It's a big tough truck but pretty and soft on the inside. I can't imagine why anyone would buy something other than one of these Fords. I have a CD player too. The only thing on the truck that was crap was the Sirius XM service. I let that expire - what a waste of money
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I have probably have more data on this subject than I can spend time typing. For my business, I have 3 2013 F450's PSD's, a 2006 F350 PSD (yes, a 6.0, that won't give it up) a 2010 Ram 5500 Cummins, a 2011 Ram 2500 Cummins, and a 2014 Ram 2500 Cummins. All are 4x4 crew cabs. I have large bumper pull trailers for the business with toppers on them. Only the 2014 2500 is set up for my 5th wheel. It is also the only one with a 3:42 rear end so must be one of the reasons it gets 20 mpg on the highway daily. Around town is 16 mpg unloaded and 12 mpg towing. The 2011 Ram is non DEF and gets 13 mpg on the highway unloaded but has a gear set that keeps the RPMS's high as do the HD Fords and 5500. All of them loaded and towing get around 11-12 MPG towing. All of these have been comfortable (except the 5500, we use for pulling an enclosed car trailer) trouble free and spend their lives driving from coast to coast towing large diesel gens or 12K equipment trailers. I don't know how much longer the 2006 F350 will keep going at 250K miles but it has the best ride of all of them, loaded or empty. I don't think you can go wrong with either brand. We do have more leg room in the rear of our Ford crew cabs. I feel the new 2014 Ram has a slightly better fit and finish inside than the Ford's but that will probably change when the new Super Duty models arrive. Let us know what you choose!
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