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Old 06-21-2014, 10:01 AM   #21
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My Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel is 2003 so not new but that aside have had some good service from it no problems at all just service real good so I have no problems from that. Have friends that have Dodge and Ford that are the same way so I guess it all comes down to what you like the best. the reason I chose the Dodge in 2003 was price at that time was several thousand cheaper so I went with I wanted to spend but I knew the Cummins engine was a real deisel engine so that helped my decision also. If I were choosing now I would probably go with Ford because they are independant company if you get my drift!! But I do not think you would go wrong to get either from my experince. .

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Old 06-21-2014, 10:12 AM   #22
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When I bought my 2014 Rockwood 8289s it was in mind that I would be using my 2008 Tundra 2wd with 5.7. While the tow weight was within limit (barely) I was about 300 plus pounds overweight with my pin weight. DW was not comfortable pulling and stopping so started shopping around. Found a 2012 Ram 2500 Larime Mega Cab 4x4 6.7 Cummins with 34000 miles loaded to the hilt. Made what I thought was a decent deal and love my truck. Never thought I would drive a dodge but but after several short hauls of 100 miles or so it pulls the Rockwood like its not even there. Plus the built in exhaust brake, tow/haul, integrated brake controller makes pulling a dream. Just got back from Disneyworld (1400 mile round trip). 11.4 mpg at 60 mph 1500 rpm with cruise set. When hitting those rolling hills in Florida dropped to 10.4. Coming back set cruise at 65 and reset instant mph indicator. Rpm at 1600 mpg dropped from 11.4 to 10.4-5. So 1 mpg less to gain 5 mph is a no brainer. I will stay in the right lane at 60 mph. Also the china bombs on the rockwood are only rated for 65mpg. My neighbor has a 2013 Chevrolet 2500 with Duramax and his mpg is approx. same as mine. Around town not towing I get about 12.9 to 13.5 average.

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Old 06-21-2014, 03:02 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by BigBaron View Post
A spacer on the rear axle (4" vs. 2") and an extra leaf spring.

That's according to a guy that works on them for a living.
The physical rear axles are different as well (not the housing). Higher spline count on the F350 vs the F250. And IIRC, thicker ring gears, but I have not confirmed that yet.
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Old 06-21-2014, 04:00 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by campingwilliamsons View Post
The physical rear axles are different as well (not the housing). Higher spline count on the F350 vs the F250. And IIRC, thicker ring gears, but I have not confirmed that yet.
The F250 and F350 from 2011 up, come with the Sterling 10.5, 37 count spline, electronic locking differential, rated at 9700lb.
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Old 06-21-2014, 04:22 PM   #25
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I get 19-20 mpg highway empty and about 12 mpg towing. My rig is in signature. (My second Cummins and I love it!)

I also agree with suggestions that you pick the trailer first, then the truck. In addition, some makes (Ram) now have significant differences between their 3/4 and one ton models, not just added springs. Also consider ride differences.
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Old 06-21-2014, 05:36 PM   #26
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Since DRW (dually) trucks weren't mentioned, I'll be quiet.

Actually, no I won't.

I would bet you're more likely to change your trailer / 5er, before you change your TV (tow vehicle). That said, there really isn't a heck of a lot of difference between getting what will do whatever you might want and getting something to meet you're immediate need. Unless you count having to trade it in to get something a little more capable. Play the numbers (weight, GVW, GCW tow rating etc) game and you will find that when you try to match things up close, you come up short.

I really doubt you'll regret having more capacity to tow / haul than what you need right now. Let that sink in. Salesmen / women are idiots, who don't give a hot what YOUR needs are. They are meeting a quota to make a paycheck.

We started with a 17' Hybrid, which led to a 36' travel trailer, which ended up being a 40' 5er.

Glad we chose a 1 ton diesel DRW. It gets about the same MPG as most trucks (when you're not splitting hairs of 1 - 2 mpg). There isn't a SRW (single rear wheel) that will ever be as stable as a DRW when things get heavy, hairy or windy.

And that's also why we chose 4x4. Would not even consider anything else. Better to have it an not need it than.... well you get the idea.

Maintenance? Diesels are a bit more, but when you're spending $20k, $30k, $40K and even more on your truck and trailer.... are you really basing a decision on $100 more a year for maintenance????

We chose. We are happy. And we get 18mpg on the highway, 15 around town and we're about to see what the new truck gets towing a 40', 14k lbs 5er. My bet is about 10 - 11. It's ROCK SOLID and very comfortable when towing. 6 tires say stop, go or stay put when conditions get a bit dicey. Not even close to being overloaded.

Hope your choice is based on what you WANT and not what anyone else tells you you should get. You'll be happier. Just make sure it's enough.

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Old 06-21-2014, 06:31 PM   #27
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Simple maintenance?

To say you can only do simple maintenance without taking the cab off a Ford is just plain ignorant. There is nothing that can't be done with the cab on. Yes, even changing head gaskets, a pain but doable. Get your stories straight.
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Old 06-21-2014, 09:58 PM   #28
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OK... Thanks again for the answers. I went out today and drove a 2015 F-250 XLT crew cab with the short bed. I was actually looking for a '14 but they're getting scarce. I didn't know Ford had released the '15s so early. My first impression was that the Ford is a bigger truck... probably is slightly, but it's probably one of them thar optical delusions... Anyway, I was impressed. Actually I was very much impressed. I came up behind a truck going about 40 mph and changed lanes, and gave it a little gas... Up jumped the devil and I was going 75 before I knew it. I was seriously not ready for that. I don't believe the Dodge has much less power, though, if any. The noise level and ride quality of the Ford was better, and I believe over the long haul, the Ford will do better on mileage.

I'm still completely torn between the two, after driving them. The Ford will probably cost about $3-5,000- more but it's a year newer should I have to sell it later. That will buy a pretty nice topper... so I'm probably going to pursue the Dodge.

Oh... and here are a few pics, as requested... and no, there are no engines... One is next to my F-150 for size comparison. It's wingspan is 150"... or 12.5'.
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:17 PM   #29
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Pondering the comments about buying the trailer, first... I'm kinda there. I don't think I will ever get much bigger, but I will get one slightly heavier. I want one with opposing slides in the living area to open it up more, and possibly a slide in the bunk area. I doubt I'll ever be pulling over 10,000#... I haven't added anything since I weighed the trailer and it was at 6,300#. If anything, I've shed a few extraneous things.

I do often pull to a park near an event and then go from there. There's one in Queen Creek AZ every February that takes up most of a week, and the RV park is part of the facility. It draws about 100 flyers from all over the country. Every day's a holiday and every night's Saturday night! My sons and I use the trailer a couple of times each winter going up into Oklahoma to do some trout fishing. I probably won't be upgrading the trailer for a couple of years... we'll see...

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Old 06-21-2014, 11:33 PM   #30
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Gliders... Very cool! My friend used to chase seagulls with his Aquila, but that was many, many years ago.

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