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Old 12-16-2014, 08:48 PM   #11
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If it rides like a Chevy, runs like a Ford, pulls like a Dodge, then it must be a perfect truck. (:>)
Funny, I hear things that a lot! Often I hear the perfect truck described as a Cummins with an Allison in a Ford truck.

The exhaust brake is another selling for all of them. Also, living in Minnesota, I was also curious about if the new diesels heat up quickly as in if I let it idle for 10-15 minutes will it be warm inside. I really appreciate all the responses.
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The 2013 and up Rams use DEF which ended alot of their trouble which revolved around the DPF system and regenerations. Right now they're top dog with torque numbers at 865#. My 2012 has had the emissions deleted and is tuned with a H&S programmer. Using the computer it will get 18-19 empty and I've seen 11-14 towing our 5er. Maybe it could do better but I'm one of the guys that thinks its a hotrod and its fun to smoke these kids and their Mustangs and Camaros! Good luck, I'm not sure you can go wrong with any of them
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Amen, some people have money to throw away for an increase of 1mpg or nothing.
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That is one of the few things my Ford does not have but they do offer what they call a supplemental cab heater that heats the cab quicker. I found the only way to heat things up quicker without the supplemental heater is to drive them or plug them in
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Owned a 2008 Ford F250 diesel and did not care for it due to the issues I was having with the engine. Apparently that year was a bad year for the diesels in Ford F250. I currently have a 2013 Ram Truck dually with the Cummins diesel with Aisin transmission. It is extremely comfortable, comes with all the bells and whistles, and pulls my 39' 5th wheel trailer like a breeze. I am 100% fully satisfied with the combination where there is a large payload and towing margin with the stability that comes from pulling with a dually, IMHO.
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Funny, I hear things that a lot! Often I hear the perfect truck described as a Cummins with an Allison in a Ford truck.

The exhaust brake is another selling for all of them. Also, living in Minnesota, I was also curious about if the new diesels heat up quickly as in if I let it idle for 10-15 minutes will it be warm inside. I really appreciate all the responses.
In 20-30 degree temps it takes 5-10 min to start getting warm inside my '14 duramax.
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My Cummins heats up faster than my Hemi did to a certain point. You can turn on the exhaust brake and set the idle (which make sit sound like a turbine engine running) and it gets up to about 120* in about 10 min or so. Operating temp is around 210* and that takes a while but I don't use a winter front. Mine will get up to about 180* on the 10 min drive to work and it was about 10* this morning. I've read that getting rid of the EGR contributes to my truck warming up slow as its no longer inhaling its own exhaust fumes
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I will not enter the debate about make but will tell you about my truck. I tow a 36'9'' TT with a loaded weight of 9,500 with 2012 Ford F 350 Crew Cab with 6.7 Diesel. Switched from 7.5 L E 350 Van and could not believe the difference. New features like integrated sway control, brake controller, tow haul mode with engine breaking make it so pleasureable. We get about 18-19 MPG not towing on highway and get about 11.5 towing.

Bought it used wiht low mileage <20K and tow years old. We looked at all the of the above and all were good but in the end when with Ford as we replqacing a 17 year old Ford that gave us great service. I can tell you this thing is beast when towing and is absolutely in control on downhills.

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It seems as if they are all good reliable trucks and now most bugs have been worked out. Despite the fact they are more expensive to own no one seems to regret buying a diesel, so I will assume the extra power and towing performance is worth the cost. When someone says thet love their truck or are 100% satisfied that says a lot. Even blowing doors off unsuspecting Camaros does sounds kind of fun. Thanks to these kind enthusiastic responses about all brands I am no closer to making a decision!
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My Cummins heats up faster than my Hemi did to a certain point. You can turn on the exhaust brake and set the idle (which make sit sound like a turbine engine running) and it gets up to about 120* in about 10 min or so. Operating temp is around 210* and that takes a while but I don't use a winter front. Mine will get up to about 180* on the 10 min drive to work and it was about 10* this morning. I've read that getting rid of the EGR contributes to my truck warming up slow as its no longer inhaling its own exhaust fumes
How do you manually set the idle? I've never seen a newer pickup truck where this is possible. By activating the exhaust brake does this put a load on the engine to warm it faster?
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