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Old 09-06-2016, 07:22 PM   #21
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Hahahaha ooh cut in manufacturing that's almost the same as taking money from us and not paying it back
Better check again bet it's paid off with interest so govt wins. And BTW still building good trucks we don't need to brag about. Later RJD
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Then Ford almost goes belly up and cuts manufacturing on bunch of vehicles. Later RD
Ford recovered on their own dime, not us taxpayers. No comparison at all.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:26 PM   #23
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Nope check again they lost us more money than ya think. We were " investors " and losing investors at that. Money went somewhere we didn't see it but it went
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Yep guess so. Not bold a lot of truth in the statement Later RJD
Say or think what you want,bottom line is that I use and work my truck way harder than 90% of the RV towing comunity does,so there is not really a fair comparison going on here.
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Say or think what you want,bottom line is that I use and work my truck way harder than 90% of the RV towing comunity does,so there is not really a fair comparison going on here.
Well lets put it this way Chevy is the most reliable truck Ford no1 which would I take I think most reliable be a Chevy. Later RJD
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Do you still have to pull the cab off to change the muffler bearing?
Well, yeah, fine. You got us there. But it's a heck of a lot easier than getting to the blinker fluid on "the other trucks".

Actually, that should be DEF fluid. Does Chevy still put theirs up in the engine compartment? I checked on my Dad's 2011, and it's not quite as hard as I thought it would be, but still...why up there? It's quite a reach in a 3500 4X4.
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Chevy that is
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Wow, this thread about the new Ford truck sure has the Chevy guys on the defense. The Dodge guys are probably in the garage working on theirs...
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OK,just keep in mind that this winter when your sippin margaritas or whatever in sunny ga or fla, waxing your v-lite and new chebby,my truck is pushing snow 6 days a week,6 hrs a day.End of comparison.
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Thats a pretty bold statement to have to justify,at least in my case,and I'm sure many others. I replaced my "bought new" 1983 f 250 diesel SC with a new f 250 SC diesel in 2000.The '83 was still running fine with 290000 on the clock,I gave it to my son who ran it untill 2006.The 2000 SDPST is at 204000 miles and will most likely be my last truck,at my age. So the first f 250 was a 1970 which I bought new and coverted to 6v-53 detroit power in 1971,replaced in 1983,that unit replaced in 2000.I guess Ive driven a LOT of junk.Also,how many of you "old" gm owners can say they hauled two loads of hay (7200# and 7600#) and relocated thier 14200# backhoe 42 miles so far this week with thier truck.Most were probably hard pressed to get groceries .
I agree! I wonder if anyone has run a Chevy that long?
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Chalk up another Ford supporter from north of the 49th.
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Meanwhile I will keep driving my underpowered over GVW little Ram 1500 that I paid $42,000 for.
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Chalk up another Ford supporter from north of the 49th.
Over 50 years Ford F 150 and Super Duty are the largest selling trucks north and south of the 49th.
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This has to be one of the most ridiculously hilarious and worthless threads yet!!! LOL!!!
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Well, yeah, fine. You got us there. But it's a heck of a lot easier than getting to the blinker fluid on "the other trucks".

Actually, that should be DEF fluid. Does Chevy still put theirs up in the engine compartment? I checked on my Dad's 2011, and it's not quite as hard as I thought it would be, but still...why up there? It's quite a reach in a 3500 4X4.
Because if you bought a Chevy you may not be able to tell the difference between the 2 tanks and fill def tank with diesel or pour def in the diesel tank. GM knows who buys their trucks.
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Ford recovered on their own dime, not us taxpayers. No comparison at all.
Are you sure?

Ford Motor Co. Does U-turn on Bailouts

On June 23, 2009, the Department of Energy announced it would provide $5.9 billion to Ford “to transform factories across Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio to produce 13 more fuel efficient models.”

Also talks about how Ford benefited from the cash for clunkers program which was funded by... Wait for it... the government.

Please note I drive a Ford as well, but am not blind as to the history of the Big 3.
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In Canada Ford did not take a buy out. However GM did and they sent production south 2 years later. Toyota on the other hand built a second plant to make more Rav 4 and Lexus.
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Quoted from link above.

Although Ford did not need money from the $80 billion bailout program, Ford did receive $5.9 billion in government loans in 2009 to retool its manufacturing plants to produce more fuel-efficient cars, and the company lobbied for and benefited from the cash-for-clunkers program — contrary to the ad’s testimonial that Ford is “standing on their own.”
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Wow, this thread about the new Ford truck sure has the Chevy guys on the defense. The Dodge guys are probably in the garage working on theirs...
Hmmm, that just reminded me that I have to take my '03 Ram CTD to the garage for it's 350,000 mile checkup. I'm a couple thousand miles past that number.

Isn't Ford the company that delivered all those China Bomb diesel engines a short time ago.
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