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Old 04-04-2012, 01:09 PM   #11
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First, you definitely can NOT trust the dealers.
And it is too bad you don't have the higher rear end ratio.
But I wouldn't panic just yet. That motor pulls like a bear.
I would suggest waiting to fill your fuel and water until you are close to your destination. And if you have to drive a bit slower up the grades, just pull in behind the semis and follow them up, no big deal.
The beauty of western Colorado is that it isn't all that far to anywhere you want to go, so no need to be in a hurry.
I envy you being so close to so much awesome quad riding. We used to go every summer for about 10 years, and really need to get back to the high country.
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:58 PM   #12
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It would figure I have bad luck. I def will get it weighed this weekend on my way to the camp site. I will not be in a hurry thats for sure. Ill keep in eye on the tranny temp also. I will be running my brake control at 6.5 to start that seemed to work pretty well on the way home from the dealer. Im gonna check the mesurments again when she is loaded. Just the camper dry droped the rear 1 1/2in. Didnt seem to make the ride any ruffer. Well see. Thanks for all the info guys. SFC C
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:28 PM   #13
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It would figure I have bad luck. I def will get it weighed this weekend on my way to the camp site. I will not be in a hurry thats for sure. Ill keep in eye on the tranny temp also. I will be running my brake control at 6.5 to start that seemed to work pretty well on the way home from the dealer. Im gonna check the mesurments again when she is loaded. Just the camper dry droped the rear 1 1/2in. Didnt seem to make the ride any ruffer. Well see. Thanks for all the info guys. SFC C
Our friends pull their 32 foot Laredo with a Dodge Ram 1500 4x4. Yes, they're over their towing max, but it pulls fine. They won't win any speed records, but it gets them to the campgrounds.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:55 PM   #14
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Does anybody have helper springs on there trucks? I have been told that a good set works pretty good.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:40 AM   #15
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Oh I cant belive I forgot this when I was towing my steering wheel was off to the left, the truck wasnt pulling but it was windy as heck out too. Is there anything I should check when hooked up to be able to figure this out?
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:23 AM   #16
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have the steering checked by the FORD dealer...I have found if you want info about Trucks ..go to The FORD dealers not just 1 or 2 ..ask the same questions ..and heres another good source look at the 2012 offical FORD towing specs guide on-line...its all there..i am thinking of ordering a 2012 F 150 ..crew cab XLT (ecoboost )..with a 6 1/2 box.. it would have the heavy duty payload pkg..and also ..the MAX towing pkg ...3.73 limited slip rear axel..4x2... giving about 2,650 lbs of payload capacity and 11,300 lbs of towing capability..both convetional trailer or 5th wheel
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Does anybody have helper springs on there trucks? I have been told that a good set works pretty good.
Helper springs or air bags will help level your truck, in addition to the weight distribution. And they may help with the ride. But they won't increase your GVWR or any of those numbers. I'm afraid you might have bit off more than you can chew with that trailer. You may have a difficult decision ahead. Either a smaller trailer, a bigger truck, or continue with what you have and constantly be fearing the worst. But before you get to that point, it will be interesting to see what you find at the weigh station. Please let us know.
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and could trust the dealer.


Eek, is right.

The Truck dealer is trying to make a deal (usually for what is in the lot and he is paying interest on - not what is right for you which has to be ordered); and HE will never have to tow it. Most likely he will move on to another dealer before you come back.

The Camper dealer is trying to sell you the biggest ticket he can since his commission is based on a percentage of the bottom line. He also wants you to be happy with THE CAMPER; the truck is YOUR problem.

The salesman always has a conflict of interest here and should N E V E R be trusted to have your best interest at heart.
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It would figure I have bad luck. I def will get it weighed this weekend on my way to the camp site. I will not be in a hurry thats for sure. Ill keep in eye on the tranny temp also. I will be running my brake control at 6.5 to start that seemed to work pretty well on the way home from the dealer. Im gonna check the mesurments again when she is loaded. Just the camper dry droped the rear 1 1/2in.
Glad to hear you are weighing. Post the weights back here. Curious minds want to know.

In the meantime, you mentioned the back of the truck dropping, which is normal. But what is more useful is to see what the front is doing. Measure the height of the front wheel well three times to estimate a good distribution of the WDH:

1) Loaded truck but not hitched
2) loaded truck hitched without spring bars snapped up.
3) loaded truck hitched with spring bars engaged. The front wheel well height should be between #1and #2 (actually close to or the same height as measurement #1). Check your Ford manual for the height they want you to achieve.
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Oh I cant belive I forgot this when I was towing my steering wheel was off to the left, the truck wasn't pulling but it was windy as heck out too. Is there anything I should check when hooked up to be able to figure this out?
You have a GIANT sail behind you. Any wind from the sides will ruin your day if the rig is not properly balanced and within its tow limits. (Something your dealers will never tell you.)

That 10-15% tongue load on a travel trailer is not a joke. It HAS to be that way. Shifting weight around to make the truck "in limits" is dangerous. Too little weight on the tongue and you have a fishtail nightmare on your hands. Too much weight on the tongue and you have a jack knife time bomb in a panic stop.

Your camper "may" be too long for your wheel base. While there are only "rules of thumb" out there on the net, (several posts here with them), it is a fact that when your TV is too short for your trailer length you will have handling issues. You will know you have a TV that may be too short for your camper if you find yourself "sawing" the steering wheel. (fighting it all the time to keep it going straight. *assuming the tongue or pin weight is correct as this can also cause handling issues like this*) You will be replacing front tires every year or two (this length issue is not only a TT issue but happens in 5th wheels as well.)
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