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Old 06-12-2011, 08:13 PM   #11
I just tow the TT for DW!
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If it helps at all, I found this in the Trailer Life tow rate guide from 2009:

Expedition 2WD/4WD 5.4L V-8 6,000 (all)
Expedition 2WD 5.4L V-8 9,200 (t)
Expedition 4WD 5.4L V-8 9,000 (t)
Expedition EL 2WD/4WD 5.4L V-8 6,000 (all)
Expedition EL 2WD 5.4L V-8 8,900 (t)
Expedition EL 4WD 5.4L V-8 8,700 (t)

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*F-250/350 models with 5.4-liter
V-8 and manual transmission are
rated to tow 1,000 lb less. Ratings
for 6.8-liter V-10 and 6.4-liter V-8
turbodiesel models are the same as
automatic-transmission ratings.
a = Automatic Transmission
a4 = Automatic Transmission, four
a6 = Auto Transmission, six speed
m = Manual Transmission
b = 3.15:1 axle ratio
c = 3.31:1 axle ratio
d = 3.55:1 axle ratio
e = 3.73:1 axle ratio
f = 4.10:1 axle ratio
g = 4.30:1 axle ratio
all = All available gear ratios apply
AWD = All Wheel Drive
CC = Crew Cab
SC = SuperCab
LB = 8-foot bed
Shortbed = 5
12-foot bed
Std. Bed = 6
12-foot bed
SRW = Single Rear Wheel
DRW = Dual Rear Wheels
2V = Two valves per cylinder
3V = Three valves per cylinder
TD = Turbodiesel

t = Tow package required


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Old 06-12-2011, 08:27 PM   #12
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Those tow guides are way too general.

According to them I should be able to to a lot more - once I got the owners manual I got the details...

You have the tow figure but also a GCWR figure and you need to consider both - as the max tow assumes a nearly empty TV, so as you add passengers, cargo, the hitch you can eat up 1000lbs of your tow capacity.

One figure I came across says my truck can tow 9000 lbs, but the GCWR is 12,500 (it's 13,500 for a 2wd with 16" rims). Take 12,500 less the ~5800 the truck weights and you get a max tow capacity of 6700lbs. WAY different than 9000! And it's something you dont' find out until you own the truck.

4x4 costs tow capacity as do options on the vehicle as these things reduce the GCWR. The 17" rims on my truck cost 500lbs in GCWR over 16" rims. Not sure the reasons for it - more weight or a change in gearing or something else. I assume, but cannot find for sure, if the third row bench seat is included in the vehicle's ratings. Mine is removable and and it's out so that cuts 75lbs or so off my load. There is also a note in my manual about the max frontal area of a trailer as well (60 or 64 sf as I recall).

So the 9000 rating gets small fast. I added up the trailer (5400lbs) the truck (5800), people (600), batt/propane/hitch (200) and I'm at 12,000 lbs. Add in food/clothing/cargo and I"m no doubt at the 12,500 gcwr with only a 5400lb trailer!

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Old 06-12-2011, 08:38 PM   #13
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Those numbers are for 07 up Expeditions.

For the 07 up(?) the GCWR 4x2 no HD tow package = 11,800 with a tow rating of 6000lbs. The 4x4 is 12,100lbs with the 6000lbs tow rating. The HD tow package raises the GCWR to 15,000lbs for the 4x2 and 4x4. The tow ratings go to 9200 for the 4x2 and 9000 for the 4x4. The EL adds another twist. Check your owners manual for your truck. I got my numbers from my owners manual.

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Old 06-12-2011, 09:37 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by DF5.4 View Post
To the OP, do you have both the 4 pin and round 7pin factory connectors?
Yes I have both.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:52 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by essness View Post
Yes I have both.
Then you have the GCWR of 15,000lbs. Here's what is included.

Heavy-Duty Trailer Tow Package — Includes Class IV hitch
receiver, 4-pin and 7-pin connectors, heavy-duty auxiliary
transmission oil cooler, heavy-duty radiator and electronic
brake wiring kit

I could never figure out why they don't include "towing" gears with the towing package.


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