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Old 01-05-2015, 11:42 AM   #1
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New Member, and Potential Grey Wolf Purchase....

Hello all, totally new to this forum, and I wanted to join to get another opinion on….

You guessed it, what trailer to buy and can my vehicle tow it.

Just a bit of history, my wife and I have been “looking” for @ 6 months or so now, and we have narrowed our choice down to the Grey Wolf model due to the fact that the weight gets us into a useable range for towing. My vehicle is a 2014 Ram 1500. Not the trailering package per se, I have the towing package, but minus the 3.92 gear ratio, I have the higher (or lower) gear ratio of 3.21.

Hence why we narrowed our search down to the Grey Wolf line. My self and the kids have quads, usually it will be either me meeting up with my friends, or just taking the kids quads. Until they are older, I don’t see taking all of them.

With all the research we have done, it seemed the best choice was either the 19rr or the 21rr. Most of my discussions over at the Ram Forum helped lead me to this decision, based on not just the weight, but the length also. Then I come across a few websites where the 25rr and 26rr are pretty popular with half tons. I really hesitate talking to Dealers, they sometimes will tell you that you can tow anything, so I have been taking their advice with a grain of salt as they say.

Anyways, I was hoping to hear from some of you over here at Forest River, to see what some people actually bought and are towing.

As I stated, the 19rr and 21rr are our narrowed down choices, but I have not ruled out at least a 25rr. My concern leans more to the length, not just the weight.

My specs on my truck are:

2014 RAM 1500 4x4 Quad Cab Short bed
13,500 Max GCVW
3.21 axle ratio
Using 4 Passengers and 700 lb tongue weight
Towing is 7252 lbs

I of course want to come in under that, and I don’t think I will load the trailers to their max of over 3,000 lbs of cargo. My estimate puts me at 1500-1800 with two kids quad or one adult quad, full load of water and gear and food etc. Please correct me if those numbers are off. At 4100 and 4400 listed dry weights, that puts me at @ 6200 lbs, add another 500 for dealer fluff, and I am right around 6700 lbs.

That puts me at @ 500 lbs under max. Thas pretty close to 10% under max.

Anyways, thanks in advance for any insight into what the members over here are towing with.

Justin in Pittsburgh

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Old 01-05-2015, 12:48 PM   #2
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jjump, welcome to the forum. It's always a tough decision. There are so many models to chose from. All of them have some positives and some negatives. So at some point you just jump in with you best guess-what feels right to you. The important thing is that you are being reasonable with weight you want to tow.

I have a 2006 Durango 5.7 with the same gearing as you do and a towable weight of 7150. Our Mini Lite 2109S tows very well with this package. Your Ram has a larger "footprint" so you could go with a little longer TT if you wanted. The Mini Lite works well for a couple. A third person could sleep on the sofa bed. It's advertised for 2 on the sofa bed but that just doesn't look like it would work unless they were small children.

What I like about the Mini Lite is that there is no set up if you are only staying over night. You can pull into a Walmart and climb in your TT and you are all set. You can use the bathroom, bed, stove refrig etc without even putting the slide out. I camp primarily in state/national parks so the smaller size works well in the more rustic campgrounds which often have shorter sites.

So have fun. Half the fun is researching all the options. If you read this forum about quality issues, you will see that all brands, makes and models seem to have some problems. Just treat the TT as a hobby and enjoy working on it and making improvements (mods). I was certain that I was going to have "buyer's remorse" as soon as I got the Mini Lite home but that has never been a problem. I have enjoyed Rving right from the start.

Good luck with your quest!

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Old 01-05-2015, 12:57 PM   #3
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I can not help you as I drive a "overloaded" 3/4T so I will just bid you welcome and good luck in your hunt.
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Old 01-05-2015, 01:58 PM   #4
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What tranny is in the truck ? 6 or 8 speed. U think with the 8 speed you would be ok. You have lots of truck. Just 3.21's aren't great for towing . I think with a few more gear options you would be fine
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8 speed.....
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:36 PM   #6
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I think you should be ok. I pulled 7k with 3.55 and the 5 speed. I pulled pretty well all the time in 3rd gear with tons of power. So I would think you should be in 4th or 5th since the 8 speed has 2 od gears like the 5 and 6 speed
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i don't see your truck's payload capacity, in any of your numbers.
that's the Achilles's Heel of 1/2 trucks.

you'll find it on the driver's side door. find that number and post it.
you may find that you will run out of payload way before you run out of towing capacity.
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Old 01-05-2015, 05:02 PM   #8
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According to the Ram Towing website, with 4 passengers i still have 1,000 lbs of payload left, but the sticker states the tires shouldnt exceed 1,500 lbs. So, math says a 6800 trailer should be around 10% or 680 lbs for the tongue, i shoukd be ok.

Now, thats with a 19rr or 21rr....but man the 25rr is starting to peak my interest.
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Old 01-05-2015, 05:25 PM   #9
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You cannot go by the towing website, need to check the sticker on Your truck as you may be in for a nasty surprise. You may find you have about 1300 pds of payload on that truck before you add any aftermarket accessories, fuel and people.

My RAM 1500 had 1400pds as a very basic quad cab. It pulled about 8000pd camper that was a 30ft bumper to hitch. It had lots of power, pulled ok when there was no wind, wind caused me to be pushed around a bit. Had reese dual cam anti sway, friend had husky straight line up hitch and it was way better. I added E rated tires and airbags to help improve the squat and feel. Trailer was a bit light on the hitch and I would run with a full tank of fresh to help.

The campers you are looking at should have a hitch weight of around 13%. Where they will have quads in the back do your best to load up the front of the trailer. A light hitch weight can cause you sway.

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Old 01-05-2015, 06:50 PM   #10
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The website is not exact, but its close. The sticker states 1500, the website says 1460....

My plan after the RV Show in Pittsburgh this weekend is to load up the truck with the family and full tank of gas and get to a CAT scale and see where i am at before i buy anything.

And i have been worried about sway loading a quad into the back, thats one thing i wont know until i try, and im not real comfortable finding out that way if i do have an issue.

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